I rode one a few years ago... a friend of mine had one he traded his 3gen SV for. It was kinda porky, basically just a big fast thing that didn't seem like it was as thought out as the SV. He didn't care much for it either and traded it for a gsxr750. Lots of engine, definitely, but the total package made me ask why.

 

It was kinda porky, basically just a big fast thing that didn't seem like it was as thought out as the SV.

Can you help me understand your thought process a bit? What kind of things were not as well thought out as they are on the SV?

Lots of engine, definitely, but the total package made me ask why.

Can you expand on that a bit? What were you thinking about? What were you questioning?

 

Never rode the gsx-s1000 but rode a cb1000r from 2012. I am an everyday rider with 15 years of experience but far from a pro rider. To me, the 130hp of the cb1000r felt too much, motor too frenetic and made me do things that would make me die a lot sooner than i wish. It was that kind of motor you can't use to go slow and make you reach silly speeds in a blink of an eye. It was a blast but no for me. Also, My friend had to stop to add fuel way sooner than i on the sv650 and all the trips we made together i was never let behind on the sv650 due to lack of power. The sv650 also felt to me more stable at corners even with a basic suspension, maybe due to the v motor position in the frame. Brakes a lot better on the cb1000r. So, the question is what are you going to use the bike for? Commuting? Track days? Speed freak for highway miles? It all depends on your intention, skills and wants. Bikes are a lot different between them, and decide what bike is better is not a matter of numbers and price.

 

To me, the 130hp of the cb1000r felt too much, motor too frenetic and made me do things that would make me die a lot sooner than i wish. It was that kind of motor you can't use to go slow

Doesn't it have 3 different modes though, from more aggressive riding to less?

Also, My friend had to stop to add fuel way sooner than i on the sv650

Seriously?! Doesn't it have a 5 gallon tank with a 200-mile range?

i was never let behind on the sv650 due to lack of power. The sv650 also felt to me more stable at corners even with a basic suspension, maybe due to the v motor position in the frame.

Ah, cool.

So, the question is what are you going to use the bike for? Commuting? Track days? Speed freak for highway miles?

Oh, just fun riding. Commuting is secondary. Mostly intrigued by the cruise control and other tech on it. Seems like you have to go up to a liter engine to get cruise control on most brands / models (they need the drive by wire tech to enable things like cruise control).

 

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Much cheaper than a new bike, doesn't keep a locked speed but good enough for a break. I don't have experience with the GSX-S 1000 but do with similar motorcycles (weight & power), fun to ride the bigger bike with more power, but if I only had one bike it would be the SV. Enough power, good handling, and the looks I like. Most new naked bikes would look at home in a transformers movie, either you like that style or you don't. May not see the looks but still have to look at it as you're approaching, subjective and everyone has an opinion.

 

Much cheaper than a new bike, doesn't keep a locked speed but good enough for a break.

What is? Your link was for some student loan article 😃 Wrong window?

 

My apologies

Atlas throttle lock

ATLAS Moto - Universal Motorcycle Cruise Control

The ATLAS is a mechanical cruise control that fits on nearly every motorcycle. It rotates with your throttle hand, is thumb activated and just over 1/4" thick.

www.atlasthrottlelock.com

 

Atlas throttle lock

Look at that. A copycat for $27 https://amzn.com/dp/B0C9DSQFKV

Wonder if it's any good though.

 

Legit cruise control is a really nice feature if you commute a lot. I used to do 100 miles daily on the highway and it was so nice to have cc that would adjust the throttle for you while ascending/descending hills and the accel/decel toggle was great. This was on a 2004 BMW and they nailed usability. Then again, that's one of those BMW things. One of those sweet features that didn't wind up breaking... unlike the servo-assist linked ABS

 

I used a Throttle Rocker on my Concours 14 for long trips. It's cheap and takes the load off your right hand.

 

I am good with a throttle rocker or locker on a bike. Cheap and good enough and you don't need to mess with wiring. Give that right hand a break.

My car has an electronic setup that is nice. Adjusts throttle and even downshifts for uphiils, then hit the gas more than I might have, lol. But I am not doing long boring highway stints on the bike.

 

I wouldn't think about comparing them. Very different bikes. Makes as much sense as comparing a Miata to an Acura MDX.

 

It's more of a comparison from the perspective of how you would go about picking one over the other. You may like some things in one bike that may make it worth your while to pick it over the other.

 

I have a Katana which is pretty much an GSXS, I don't think I can compare the two because of how different the engine characteristics are & electronics. SV has usable power everywhere and is fun to ride around on the street. The Katana only comes alive post 80, but it's a great highway commuter and has power no matter the speed you're going. It feels more like a sword, the SV feels like a sledgehammer.

My suggestion, have both! Plus the new GSXS1000 comes with a ride by wire quick-shifter and all those niceties. And if someone has ridden an 8s, that would be interesting to compare as well.

 

I didn't get down to the demo days this year, or the weather wasn't great. Last year, I took out a GSX-S750. It surprised me in that the inline-4 was still usable 'putting around', though wasn't as happy about it as the SV. More the 'sewing machine' sound than the 'thump' of the V-Twin... But once you started revving it, MUCH faster acceleration. Better suspension and brakes... Thicker bike, so not quite as nimble. It had been one I was really looking at in competition to my SV, so I was happy to get the chance to ride it. The 1000 would just be more of the same, with more toys and power.

I think those bikes are more for those that enjoy the 'thrill' side of things at a faster pace. And can afford the higher price and running costs. The SV does the same things, a bit more slowly. VERY hard to beat the value, though! I was just talking to my father yesterday about how the SV might possibly be my forever bike. I get on an open road and get the urge to nail the accelerator and I just... don't. Oddly enough, there also happens to be a cop waiting just over the next rise, etc... The SV can be playful and 'commute' at 100MPH if you desire, which is enough for many.

 

sv650 is better