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Hmm, I may have to take this one into my own hands. Getting tired of mushy brakes and the Carbon Loraine pads and bleeding didn't help much.
 
I ride an 08 ABS model. One of the advantages of the ABS is that you can always bring the braking system to the point where the limitation is the tires, not the brakes. Maybe what you want is stickier tires.
 
Just go for the caliper upgrades and forget about the lines. If you shop carefully you can get them and the adapters for less than a custom brake line setup.

My 08 ABS SV with upgraded calipers that I nabbed for $25 + $35 shipping:

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This upgrade will get the best bang for the buck in SV braking.

Oh, and BTW, I paid over $100 for my adapters alone, so there really isn't any excuse not to do this, right?

tk
 
:) Hi, The Brake Caliper Adapter Brackets used in the upgrade to the 4 Piston Calipers referred to in the post above are available for the Tokico 2001 - 2003 GSXR 600, the 2000 - 2003 GSXR 750, and All Model Years of the SV1000, These are all the same Tokico Calipers and they bolt right on,

Also, Available for th Nissin 4 Piston Calipers, Honda CBR 600 F4 - F4i 1999 to 2006, These are all the same Nissin Calipers and they bolt right on,

Specify Which Calipers you want the SV Racing Parts Brake Caliper Adapter Brackets for and I will get you looked after right away,

Email me directly at b.layton@svracingparts.com with questions, this post is for information related to the brake upgrade and suggestions mentioned above,

Enjoy the ride, and best regards,
Blair
 
This upgrade will get the best bang for the buck in SV braking.
tk
tk, did you do anything at all with the master cylinder? i've got an '08 naked ABS, and I've gotta pull really, r-e-a-a-l-l-y, REALLY hard to get the front to ABS point. so, like barrypz said, with ABS the tires are the limiting factor. however, i'd like to be able to apply more braking force with less pressure thru the lever, and if i understand things correctly, that can be done with (a) grippier pads, (b) more pad force (i.e. 4 piston instead of 2), or (c) a master cylinder that "pushes" better. am i correct? and Blair, am i correct in thinking that stainless lines 'deliver' the fluid force to the brakes more efficiently, but that with no other changes, you still have to pull the lever just as hard as before, it might just shorten the stroke some?

... i gotta do SOMETHING about my brakes!

p.s. i HAVE searched and read, and:
http://forum.svrider.com/showthread.php?t=114800&highlight=master+cylinder
gives good info, as an example. i just wanted some non-race input...

cheers, don
 
:) One other thing that you can add is the SS Banjo Bleeders I have to replace the banjo bolt at the M/C. They allow you to bleed from the top and remove tiny air bubbles that tend to migrate up with gravity and get trapped in the M/C and can contribute to the spongy feeling of the brake lever, they are cheap at $19.95 shipped,
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I've also got the superb Lifetime Guaranteed Galfer SS Lines and their HH Sintered Pads at great prices, in stock for us,

I am a big fan of SS Lines over the stock for us,

Let me know if I can help you out,

Enjoy the ride, and best regards,
Blair
 
tk, did you do anything at all with the master cylinder? ....

you still have to pull the lever just as hard as before, it might just shorten the stroke some?

... i gotta do SOMETHING about my brakes!
Due to my desire to not change out my MC (had SV Pazzo lever that I didn't want to replace with a GSXR one), I kept the stock master cylinder.

Feel-wise, I think it would be worthwhile to get the mating MC too for the caliper upgrade. The GSXR calipers feel great (more bite overall with alot less effort), but I feel that the mis-matched MC requires more pull, ie more distance to get them to bite hard. It just feels better but different. It's hard to describe. After this upgrade, I would never go back. Stock brakes just feel like the pads got contaminated with oil... I guess that's the best way to describe them. It would take a death grip
to get the ABS to kick in, right?

tk
 
:) The flow from the SV650 M/C is the same as the GSXR M/C from the Tokico and the M/C for the Nissin Calipers from the vintages of bikes that the 4 Piston Calipers are coming from.

I upgraded to the Brembo 19 X 18 on one of my own bikes, but the other I have the stock OEM M/C with the Banjo Bleed, SS Lines, and the Galfer HH Sintered Pads, and they are an awesome improvement over stock,

BTW: the Brembo M/C come with a Banjo Bleeder installed,
Enjoy the ride, and best regards,
Blair
 
Just FYI on ABS MC. It is not the same as regular SV (naked anyways...). Regular one is 5/8's while the ABS model has 14mm stock.

The 14mm in fact has more pressure than the 5/8s... Ask me how I know ... =\

With 5/8's you really have to pull in the lever harder but it stops very very fast. I've actually played around with ABS and it's rather easy to activate it even with 5/8's.
 
:) Stay tuned, I will be posting up as soon as I am able to complete the project with Galfer, and I wll offer it as a stocking item,

Enjoy the ride, and best regards,
Blair
Blair, if this is now available, I'm on it.
I've emailed you directly.
Cheers, Don
 
Hi, what's the status of the SS brake line availability?

I also have an '08 abs version, and I'm sick of having to pull so hard! IMO, the issue isn't that it takes effort to get the ABS to kick in, because I see that as a backup system. Its just that even normal braking takes some serious effort! (yes, I have rebled, cleaned rotors, new pads, etc.)

I'm surprised about the comments about it being cheaper to replace the calipers, including an adapter to make this work--is this really true? What kind of total budget are we talking about?

Thanks! Nexus242
 
Galfer Full SS Brake Line Kits for SV650 abs

:) HI Everyone, it has been a long time coming but it is done at last. The Full System Galfer SS Brake Line Kits for SV650 abs are done.

I have the Lifetime Guaranteed Galfer SS SV650 abs 5 Line Kits in stock today and ready to ship to my fellow SV Rider members on the SV650 abs as of now,

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These are 5 Line Kits that complete the integrated Front and Rear abs SS line system so you have full SS all around,

All the requisite and correct fittings including crush washers and SS Banjo Bolts are included.

Email me directly at b.layton@svracingparts.com for a set for your bike and I will get you looked after right away in the line color of your choice,

Visit me at www.svracingparts.com where they will be on the web site tonight,

These are great systems and really enhance the braking on the SV650 abs,

Enjoy the ride, and best regards,
Blair
 
Do these work for both naked and faired?

Thanks!
 
:) Hi Yes they do. SV650 abs is the key to this line kit, S or N designation will not matter. For other bikes that are not abs, I also stock all the Galfer Lifetime Guaranteed SS Line Kits for them as well,

Email me Directly at b.layton@svracingparts.com and if you include your contact phone number I will be happy to give you a quick call to discuss your needs and options,

Visit me at www.svracingparts.com

Enjoy the ride, and best regards,
Blair
 
Just received the brake lines for my SV650SA and they look great. I am in the process of replacing the seals on the CBR600RR caliper (gold bling!) and then will have a go at fitting them all.
 
craziness! for 3 years I searched and pleaded for S/S front lines for my SV-A from every supplier in the USA and the UK, and within a month that Spiegler finally comes thru, so does Galfer. that's great, now we're spolied by choice, but why wasn't this possible 3 years ago?

btw, the original post re: the Spieglers is at:
http://forum.svrider.com/showthread.php?t=140490&highlight=

p.s. i see no real reason to change out the rear lines aside from matching bling - the rear ABS activates far too early for my liking anyway...

enjoy stopping fast, guys!

cheers,
 
SS Brake Lines for ABS SV650

:) Hi, the reason that you need to do the full set up including the rear is that the front and rear lines are interconnected so that the full system is pressurized as one.

You cannot get the full benefits of the System by only doing the fronts. That is just kidding yourself. The rear brake lines are mostly rubber and hard plumbed into the abs system.

With the rear properly done with the full Galfer SS system you will find the abs is much more controlled on both ends,

Email me Directly at b.layton@svracingparts.com for the Galfer full 5 line system. I have them in stock and ready to ship to SV Riders everywhere,

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Enjoy the ride, and best regards,
Blair
 
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