I would definitely order the correct replacement bolt, but until then I don't think it should cause any issues.
And stop being cheap, replace your crush washer at every oil change.

 

I would definitely order the correct replacement bolt, but until then I don't think it should cause any issues.
And stop being cheap, replace your crush washer at every oil change.

If I remember correctly you didn't change your crush washer when you changed your oil during the maintenance day. Just saying...

 

Sometimes you can find Suzuki parts at a Suzuki dealer.

 

There will be fewer aluminum threads in the case trying to hold the same torque that the full number of threads are supposed to hold.

New plug. New crush washer. Best seal and lowest thread wear.
Re-using the old washer means you have to use more torque to attain the same seal.

Over time you'll end up with a de-threaded hole in the bottom otherwise.

 

There will be fewer aluminum threads in the case trying to hold the same torque that the full number of threads are supposed to hold.

Is that really an issue?
The reason why I am asking is, besides being a cheap old ****, I sometimes also outsmart myself.
I changed oil on the 2 1. gens in the stable and after I did that I found the 2 2. gen oil plugs
I bought as an replacement since they have a magnet in them.
If my memory serves me right, the 2. gen oil plugs are quite a bit shorter,
so less threads to hold onto but I think the torque is not very high anyway, like 18 nm, I think.

Thank you

 

I guess 12 point sockets have their place. With 6 point, if you don't have a ratchet in your wrench, you have to move a whole 60 degrees to continue turning the socket, which may not always be possible.

 

You don't have to use 12 point sockets.

 

I know, but 12 pts are a lot cheaper than 6 pt which is what I bought.

I'll order in the new bolt and washer and see if i can swap out the plugs without losing too much oil. My old oil was just absolutely disgusting.

 

You could just do like I used to when playing with a bicycle chain and turn the bike upside down when you replace the plug so you don't lose any oil out the drain hole ... j/k

 

Drain the oil into a clean pan and just refill. Or, simply have the new plug at the ready. Wear gloves. Good luck. When buying tools, think of the investment as very long term. I'm using tools that I bought 40 yrs ago, plus my father's tools.

 

Never changed the washer, never torqued to spec, never had an issue but I do use a 6 point socket.
Guess there is a reason why I sometimes get called a cheap old **** ;D

 

Yea I've heard of a lot of people not buying new washers. Butt. I might as well since I'm ordering a new bolt. Probably just gonna buy like 5-6 washers.

 

I'm pretty sure you can get an oil drain plug that would fit just fine at any auto parts store.

 

Nope. Advanced auto parts didn't have any. Only a 30mm one

 

I never changed my washer either. My bike is appoaching it's 10 year anniversary. I suppose I could splurge a little and get a new washer.

 

From what I could find it is a M12x1.25 20mm

Napa has one that is almost a perfect fit, just a hair shorter. But if the temp one you got is working then I would just get the right one from a local dealership when you get a chance.

https://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=BK_7041038_0245672969

 

If you want a magnetic aftermarket plug try this: www.goldplug.com/search.html

 

^^^ This is nice. I think I'll get a couple of these soon. Thanks for posting this, RMAN!

 

Oil Drain: 21 Nm, 15 lb-ft.

The wider an area you can spread stress in metals the better off you are.
The bolt is steel. The sump is aluminum. Too much stress over too little material will strip the threads.

Probably not right away if you're careful, but successive oil changes over the years will eventually fatigue the threads more than they can cope with.

A 2nd gen bolt seems to be plenty long enough and I wouldn't worry that too much.
Using a bolt 5 to 10 mm shorter should be of some concern though.

I usually use the semi-calibrated elbow torque with a new washer though.
Run it up to contact and feel for a bit of crush and leave it be. Visually inspect after filling.

 

I don't understand your question. You said you bought a replacement but it was too short and lacked the magnet. I was just offering an alternative to an oem plug.

 

Here's the Gold Plug for my Triumph. Why the

 

I know, but it's so much more expensive than the OEM o.o

What's so special about it? Although I think I could save money by buying a ton of washers.. quite a bit cheaper than OEM washers.

 

get a fumoto plug/valve instead!

then stick a neodymium magnet to the side of your filter.

the fumoto makes for stupid simple oil changes (less mess too) and the (reusable) magnet traps all shavings INSIDE the filter for disposal.

 

Re: get a fumoto plug/valve instead!

then stick a neodymium magnet to the side of your filter.

the fumoto makes for stupid simple oil changes (less mess too) and the (reusable) magnet traps all shavings INSIDE the filter for disposal.

Do you know how big the magnet needs to be or will one of those tiny ones from Radioshack work?

That fumoto thing looks very nifty...do you know which part number I should get?

Bob_M: But Gold Plug washers cost 35 cents Saving of like 80 cents per washer makes up the difference very fast.

 

Is the oem plug magnetic?

 

Mine is. I would have thought that the OEM $uzuki part would have cost more, but I just looked and their price from BikeBandit is $3.39 for the plug and $1.13 for the washer. ($5.52)

The Gold Plug for mine would be $9.99 (washer included)

I guess Suzuki wins this one.

 

I think so? The plug I pulled out of my oil pan had a magnet on the end, but I don't know if the PO added one on or what.

 

Then buying the oem at the dealer would be the way to go for you.

 

Yup, OEM plugs and Gold plug washers. $3.39 + $0.35 = $3.74 Stock up on washers from Gold plug.

 

Doesn't the Fumoto cost ~$23? You also have to include shipping costs if you buy online, so the oem plug at the dealer would be cheaper. And, what if a rock hits that Fumoto while riding?

 

Fumoto looks pretty low profile though.

I think I'm going to go with the Gold Plug since I like the idea of using a softer metal screw so I don't need to worry about destroying the drain pan's threading if overtorqued. Only 3 dollars more anyways.

 

And it'll be a nice purty gold color too.

 

And whats up with Gold Plug? If the plug ain't gold, then it ain't a gold plug!! :angry5: I protest!!!! LOL

 

They show up as gold in the pictures on their page :/

 

Hehehe.....Yeah, I was gonna get a couple of them just for the heck of it, but I think I'll just add them to my "BikeBandit" parts list.