No such thing as "generally nice human beings" we all have a whole lot of stupid in us from anothers point of view!

 

maybe it was his kid that peed on your bike . seeing how the guy paused when you asked him . the kid was probably sooo excited to be on a bike he peed himself and the father thought that you would be mad if you knew

 

So when ya gonna move?

 

Hit him with a bat !!!!!!! Just not in front of his kid.{Thats wrong}

 

It sounds like you handled it pretty well...I'd be ******, too.

After loaning out a few vehicles in the past, to friends an a now ex-fiance, resulting in one blown tranny, and one accident - I don't loan vehicles out, period. And that's for people i KNOW. People I don't - there'd be some choice words.

It's totally possible he didn't think you'd mind, but after explaining, 'no, it's NOT ok' and he kept it up, I'd certainly be mentioning - "Yep, no respect, you're right, sort of how people don't respect the property of others by staying the **** off of it?"

Ahh well - unfortunately some people don't 'get it,' just try to think about that whenever you see them in the future.

 

The only reason he accused you of stunting and such was because of your likely slightly nasty attitude towards him.

He probably honestly didn't figure it was a big deal. You should have been subdued and explained that its easy for a bike to fall over when on stands and cause damage or injure his kid, and that you'd prefer that no one sit on it.

But because you gave him a bit of an attitude, he put up his defenses and lashed back at you.

You should cool off a bit and maybe talk to him again when you're both calmed down. You don't want this to cause an irrepairable rift between you.

 

(1) He probably honestly didn't figure it was a big deal.

(2) You should have been subdued and explained that its easy for a bike to fall over when on stands and cause damage or injure his kid, and that you'd prefer that no one sit on it.

(1) HTH does someone come to the conclusion that sitting on someone else's bike is "no big deal?"

(2) Maybe I read it wrong, but I think that's what the op did.

 

WTF is wrong with people? If he saw an open convertible sportscar on the street, would he just hop in? If he passed a house with an open front door, would he just walk in?

You were right to start on a civil plane, talking about safety for his son and such. But after he had the nerve to even argue the point, I would have lost it. "You don't touch other people's stuff, period, you stupid motherfkr! Give me the spare keys to your car, right now! I want the option to sit in there, any time I please!"

And WTH does the whole sportbiker thing have to do with it? What's he saying, that if it were a Harley, he'd respect it and keep off?

Wish I had a solution for you, other than, move? Maybe file a police report, since the guy basically admitted he's done this before, and you've had issues with "someone" tampering with your bike, and he's indicated he might continue to disrespect your property. Just indicate that you want the local beat cop to give him a "friendly" knock on the door and a reminder that he's being watched. Do you live in a community with an association? If you rat on him, maybe that would be enough to reign him in. (Of course, this could all just p!ss him off more.)

 

I agree with most everybody that, in a perfect world, everyone else would never touch other people's property, yada yada yada.

Give the guy a break - he was likely just showing his son about motorcycles and the different kinds. He probably thought that it's no big deal. It sounds like the guy knows his way around bikes, I doubt anything 'dangerous' would have happened. However, just talk to the guy, explaining not to do that again without your permission, etc. and you can probably save face with that guy a bit.

 

Ill bet the last time he sat on it the alarm went off and litteraly scared the **** out of the kid. hahah

 

your still there Mike. I thought you moved or got evicted for having a loud crotch rocket and riding wheelies in crocs while p!ssing on everyones cars. Hmmmm anyway you crotch rocket riding folk oughta know better. And if he likes crothc rockets so little why was he putting his kid on one? weird

 

I see people on my bike or at least around it all the time while it's parked at work. I'm just waiting for someone to knock it over.

 

Next time you leave your bike out in the open, chain your helmet on top of the seat. Nowhere to sit. Unless the guy puts his kid on the rear seat. But that's not the real thing.

A few days ago I saw a bunch of people taking turn sitting on a cruised parked in a moto-only parking lot and taking pics of themselves (people are so silly and stupid sometimes). I asked whether it was their bike, explained that its someone else's property, and ask what they would do if it fell over. They grumbled a bit and left. I'l admit I got a bit bothered, even though it wasn't my bike. I dunno how I'd react if a neighbor put his little kid on mine, though. I mean, its just a 5lb infant and you kinda sorta know the guy.

 

I mean, its just a 5lb infant and you kinda sorta know the guy.

Clearly if the child can walk and talk and play at the park, he's slightly older than "5 lb infant". Even 3-year-olds can weigh 30-40 lbs.

 

Ok, let me explain a few things...

I'm a pretty subdued person. Ask some of the local people on here that know me. I'll back down from a fight. I'm not a violent person. I can take a joke, and I'm pretty tollerant, as compared with other people I've met. Essentially, I'll put up with alot of s--t before I lose it.

HOWEVER... I've spent A LOT of time on that bike. I bought it out of the crate, and have put every last one of the 48+K miles on it. I love the s--t out of it. I won't go off on a youtube video and come up with a bunch of campy reasons why. But as Reufus once said "I just love the crap out of riding." I don't know why. It's not "in my blood", I don't care about "Freedom", and I sure as heck haven't dumped heap-loads of money into it to impress other people.

There came a time in my life around a year ago where things were looking pretty grim, money wise. I looked at selling alot of stuff I have, TV, golf clubs, looked at selling the truck, selling more photos, moving out and back in with my brother or my ex... not once did I even consider getting rid of the bike.

I've done what I've done to it, on it, and with it because it's what I want. I don't consider myself a selfish person, but that bike is mine. Not his, not hers, and sure as heck not yours.

There are two things I believe you should not mess with in this world, regardless of what has been done to you or how badly you seek revenge.

1. Family. Don't care who you are, what you do, or how many times you've watched that stupid Sopranos bulls--t, you do not mess with people's family. Have the balls to confront them face to face, and not take the cowardly route by giong after their wife, girlfriend, or God-forbid... children.

2. Vehicles. I kind of addressed this above. I've had alot of s--t done to my bike. 2 of the cases, I'm 90% sure of who did it. Yet I still wouldn't think of retaliating against their vehicles. Yeah, they're a d--k, have no class, and may not even care. But chances are, they worked just as hard for their vehicle as I did for mine.

So that being said, no... I will not "chill out" and take it easy on the guy. It's not his bike, nor his child's. I have ZERO tollerance for ignorant people who have no concept of right and wrong. This bulls--t about "They just weren't raised that way" or "they just don't understand" doesn't work for me. You're a grown adult with a child. How could you possibly for one second think that it was ok? He screwed up and got caught. Then he wants to lecure me? F--k him.

 

Ok, let me explain a few things...

no... I will not "chill out" and take it easy on the guy. It's not his bike, nor his child's. I have ZERO tollerance for ignorant people who have no concept of right and wrong. This bulls--t about "They just weren't raised that way" or "they just don't understand" doesn't work for me. You're a grown adult with a child. How could you possibly for one second think that it was ok? He screwed up and got caught. Then he wants to lecure me? F--k him.

Amen, brother.

 

Heck, I probably would have had a similar reaction.....or maybe it would have been more like "Get the **** off my bike!", which would probably be just as effective.

I don't understand how people think it's ok to do that. The first time I see someone on my bike, I'm using the convertable analogy, that's a good one.


....Mike, obviously the alarm isn't enough. I'm thinking ejector seat. ;D

 

Go sit on the hood of his car in the morning before he goes to work.
I think he'll finally get it.

 

The way the world is now if the ejection seat knocks the kid off, the dad would sue you.

 

That's what the warning label is for. Gotta cover all the bases. ;D

I'd have to say I'd probably feel the same as ASCS right now. I worked two jobs 8 months at 70+ hours a week so that I could buy my SV in cash. It's one of the few things that I own, so yeah, if someone started goofing around on it, I'd be pretty ******.

It would be a completely different story if the guy had asked. But he didn't, he treated someones private property as public domain. A motorcycle is not a jungle-gym.

Beside the point that a human being with any common sense whatsoever dosen't mess with another persons property, what if ASCS had been running the bike and it was hot? What if the kid got burned, or what if by some chance the bike HAD fallen over? What then?

 

Mike, judging from your general demeanor, I'd have to say I think you could've handled things better. I understand where your attitude stems from - you've had a pretty sh1tty time, especially as of late - but this guy probably has no clue to that. Even I wouldn't have admonished them so aggressively. You can't be a bull in a china shop. Go to this guy, apologize for acting the way you, and explain where it came from. Don't let him off the hook, just admit that you could've dealt with it better.

 

Did someone put a rubber band around your balls? King of Douchebag crown = removed.

 

And I hope no one thinks I believe sitting on someone's bike is ok.

 

I bet you steal candy from little kids too. Sitting on other peoples bikes, your rude.

 

it's funny, but the only thing i fear about my husky's auto-retracting sidestand is guys like that. freak out deserve. what would have happened if your stand wasn't on right, or they failed?

 

Arimichael & Newtboy!

Righters of wrongs!

 

Verily, I sayeth unto thee, they are much takers of no shyt.

 

it is disrespectful but, (maybe i'm older, have kids or think of motorcycling differantly them most) i probably wouldn't be that mad, i would tell him "you shouldn't be doing things like that" as a parent and seing the kids how excited and cool they think it would be sitting on the bike, or how the kid might think back and remember that moment what he sat on his first motorcycle, DON'T get me wrong, he was totally in the wrong

or maybe that thought "who threw away this perfectly good motorcycle" i mean it is near the dumpster

 

I can understand the frustration here. Some kids sat on my bike a few months back, dropped it, and caused $2000 in damages...seriously. Luckily I did the work myself and saved about $900 but still... If you see the guy you might try to make nice and explain why you freaked...things like damages/costs etc. The last thing you want is an enemy around with your bike sitting outside.

 

"Did someone put a rubber band around your balls? King of Douchebag crown = removed."

That reminds me of Fight Club. Here's another quote: "The things you own end up owning you".

It's a fvcking motorcycle. Now you've made an enemy when you could have easily made a friend. Instead of having someone watch out for your bike, you now have to worry about what he might possible do to it. I'm all for property rights, and I think it's wrong to sit on other's bikes. I don't mean disrespect, but I think you handled the situation poorly.

 

If this moron wanted to let the kid sit on the bike, he had any number of times when you were outside he could have wandered up and asked you for permission at a time when you could supervise, etc.

Since this idiot blatantly disregarded the fact that it is not his bike, I think you were definitely justified in going off on said moron.

If you want to go back and try to patch up relations to the idiot, it probably can't hurt.

I think I'd have asked for his keys, so I could sit in his car for a while and see how it felt.