According to sonic springs i didnt need to use any spacers that i could just drop the springs in. Yeah ive backed the compression out and theres no preload. I have to recheck sag but even when the fork is off the bike and i compress it i still have a 2.5" from bottoming

 

Hmmm, does not make sense that with zero preload you have insufficient travel?
Are you using the oem spacer? What is the fork oil level set at?

 

Theres no spacer in there at all i didnt need one according to sonic springs. The oil i dont remember. I think 110mm? or whatever the stock level is for those forks.

 

I begin tonight sourcing and purchasing my front end. After reading 87 pages, I have just one question. There is talk of caliper spacers throughout the thread, but I am unsure where these are placed. If anyone could send or post a picture, that would be quite helpful. Additionally, if I use an 06-07 750 front end do I understand correctly that I can use my SV1000S 310 mm rotors with the 07 radial calipers with no spacers?

 

Haven't looked at this thread in a long time - 87 pages!

The spacers are intended to allow calipers to be used on rotors that are bigger than intended. They would go between the caliper and the fork mount for the caliper; so, 1 spacer for each of two caliper mounting bolts on each fork leg.

K6/K7 GSXR fork used a 310mm rotor so you should be able to use your SV1000's 310mm rotor without spacers.

 

Ok so i am thinking of doing a swap my wishlist until now is:

GSXR 750 K7 front forks(because black frame needs black forks);
GSXR 750 K7 calipers;
GSXR 750 K7 bottom triple;
GSXR 750 K7 front wheel;
GSXR 750 K7 rotors;
GSXR 750 K7 axel;
GSXR 750 K7 front brake master cylinder;
GSXR 750 K5 top triple to bore to 28 mm;
SV racing Clip-ons.


I was wondering will all of these fit my K8 SV650S without drilling the frame for the 28 mm stem of the bottom triple?

Also do i need anything else like a steering damper, clutch, brake leavers and sleeves(wanted to put the SV leavers and sleeves ones)?

Oh and if the GSXR 750 K7 stuff i said are the same size as the GSXR K8+, from what i can tell the K8+ forks have a different top from the older ones, do they have a different stem bore or need more fabricating to fit the SV? or anything else like are they compatible with the K5 top triple if i bore them to 28mm? I have googled them and they seem to be near the same price range and i though newer is better right?

And if you have any advice on how to tackel this while sober?

Good day sirs and ladies!

 

Just curious - how heavy are you with gear? Also, you realize that you'll lose the steering locks unless you mod the bike and the ignition module won't fit without modding the upper triple, right? Then you have to bore the upper triple, too.

Any reason not to consider an 04-05 gxsr fork that gets around all of this?

 

I'm about 80 kg (176 pounds) with gear on and i know i need to bore the upper triple so it would fit, i was wondering if the frame needs to be bored also

 

I'm about 80 kg (176 pounds) with gear, and i know that i need to bore the top triple so it would fit, i was wondering if there is a need to bore the frame also.
Shouldn't the steering lock remain the same if i use a K5 top triple?
The reason because i chose the K7 is because it's black and i found one with most parts at about 700 $

 

Sorry, I didn't notice you're using a K5 top triple. You'll have to bore that out but it should work.

The reason I asked about your weight and your choice of forks is because the stock forks will come with a 1.00kg spring, unless the PO changed it. This is a pretty heavy spring for someone of your weight and you'll have trouble tuning the forks. Fortunately, Sonic Springs sells a 0.85kg spring and that will work for you so plan on a spring change.

 

Buying a 2003 SV to build into a track bike for my son. The bike is in poor condition right now so it will essentially be a full rebuild to get it track ready. Trying to decide which path to go with in regards to the front forks. Right now the options are:

1) OEM forks currently on it that have possibly never been opened. Rebuild with new springs, fluid, and emulators.
2) OEM forks currently on it that have possibly never been opened. Rebuild with cartidges (brand/model TBD).
3) 2002 GSXR750 forks that I already have that are also probably all original w/ same model upper/lower triples . Rebuild with new springs, fluid, and valving.
4) Some other forks, like the 04/05 600 I have on mine.

If going with GSXR forks, ignition placemement will not matter as I will be doing a keyless ignition mod.

No matter the chosen path, the bike will need new steering bearings, so they will be chosen accordingly. Pros for 1 or 2 is I will already have the wheel for it. I do have the wheel for the '02 750 forks, but it is so badly warped it is unusable.

 

Do you want this thread in "Racing Discussions" or here in "Modifications & General Maintenance"?

 

You can delete this one and will just leave it in the racing thread. I tried to delete this one it didn't give me that option.

 

What is the "Fork Length from CL Spindle to top of fork cap" for both the 1st and 2nd Gen SV?

 

Hello guys,

I just had my first season with SV1000s K4 and I've decided to make a GSX-r fork upgrade.

I've read decent number of pages about gsx-r fork swap but some of the things are still not clear to me, because more I read, more confused I get.

So, I've got opportunity to get 04/05 gsx-r 750 front end with top and bottom triple clamp + callipers from same bike.

Here are the things which are clear to me:
- I can reuse front wheel and brake disc
- I can reuse axle
- Igniton is on same side as on SV so I don't need any modification about this

Here are the things which are NOT clear to me:
- Will SV clip-on fit GSX-r 750 K4 fork? Is top diameter of fork's the same?
- Can I reuse SV stabilizer or do I need to get one from GSX-r 750 model?
- Do I need spacers for calipers to fit SV brake disc? gsxr are 300mm and SV is 310mm.
- Do I need any other modification of front end to make this swap?


Is there something I've missed? I would be grateful is somebody could remind me


cheers

 

-SV clip on won't work, different size fork tubes.
-You can reuse the SV steering stabilizer.
-Possibly? Not sure where you'd find 5mm spacers though.

One thing to watch for is to make sure your fender clears the radiator at full compression, you may need to trim the fender a little.

 

I have 5mm spacers Zoran made for me. $10 shipped in US

 

Will a gsxr speed sensor work with the rare earth magnets in the rotors? or do i need a special sensor?

 

Yes it will... I used one for my swap. Just splice he sensor to the existing sensor harness or extend the gsxr speedo sensor harness. You need to have about 5mm of spacing between the sensor and the magnets though as the gsxr sensor pics up the surrounding metal as well causing the speedo to be jumpy.

 

Hello all, hope you're well

I've got a K8 GSXR1000 front end lined up to put on my SV1000 (K4).

Am I right in thinking everything is bolt in, including the SV front wheel? I realise I need the front wheel spindle and lock nut from the GSXR.

Mine's an N model so I'll need to fettle about, getting the bars to fit and the clocks.

Let me know

Thanks

John

 

Sounds like you got it figured out. Doing the swap is stupid easy on a 1k.

 

Thanks chap

 

Any suggestions for putting a Gixxer front end on a ...BANDIT 1200 ... ?

This seems to be the place for front end swap talk.. and the BBS Bandit forums is just about... done... I'm one of the last ghosts still active there...!

 

all balls conversion site will tell you if bearings are available. The other thing to think about is stem length. I can measure my GSXR stem for you this weekend

Otherwise it's just thinking how to bolt up headlight/indicators and so on. I just bought some clamps from ebay for 50-54mm forks

 

Can you link to the ones you got? I don't see any that big.

 

I am having trouble identifying which front end I have looking at the OP pics. I bought the bike with the front end swap done already and the original owner told me they are '95 GSXR 750 with TL1000 6 pot brakes. The brakes were easy to identify but I have no clue about the forks. When I asked "are you sure they are '95" and I got "I think" so..

Reason this is important to me is I am having a slight issue with the rotors being very slightly warped.Enough to feel a pulse when braking from high speed which was very concerning at the track especially when it was my first run. I believe they are the wrong size. The edge of the pad is almost dead even with the edge of the rotor which I know is not supposed to be like that. Could someone help me please? Here is a pic from the side showing the fork and brake setup. I want to be sure of the correct setup before I spend the fortune for good rotors. Thank you.

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I'd recommend cleaning the rotors and re-seating the pads first. Bike rotors rarely warp, they usually fall victim to uneven pad deposition.

 

All of that was just done when I put new pads in and bedded them in. I did the basic low speed stuff but apparently at higher speed and heavier braking is when I could feel that. My mechanic put a dial indicator on both sides and they were both slightly off. I believe by about 7 thousands if I remember correctly. He also stated the pads are not supposed to ride at the edge of the rotor. The paint from the cheaper organic pads that were on it was getting shaved off and curling/clogging behind the pads causing the pads to move in the calipers.

 

You can't reasonably measure runout on floating rotors, because they can easily be pushed back and forth.

I think the closest you can do is measure thickness at a bunch of points around it.

 

I found part of the issue which is now noticeable since I just put new pads on. I took everything apart for another look. The right caliper outside pistons are not moving so only the fluid was pushing the inside pistons. I need to crack these brakes open an rebuild.

 

I just got K7 gsxr1000 front end to put on my sv1000. I want to recondition the front end before installation. I wonder who has best deal on caliper rebuild kit, radial master cylinder kit and fork seals and bushings.

Another question, did somebody tried Chinese billet top yokes?

 

I suspect the Chinese billet top triples will do the trick, but I doubt you'll find any options that let you use the steering lock.

Since the 2007 GSXR1000 has 28mm offset, none of the top clamps from other GSXRs will fit.

I ordered a top clamp from TopYokes.com for my 07 750 forks/triple, with handlebar mounts, and with the ignition on the right. Total cost was $205 shipped, anodized. I don't have it yet, so I can't say much about quality. He's also putting some threaded holes on the bottom of it, to mount my gauges to. It sounds like you're staying with the S fairing, so that doesn't matter for you.

If you tell him what lower triple, what forks, and what bike it's going on, he should be able to make you a top triple that'll work. Yes, it's significantly more money than a China clamp.

I think another option would be to take an 04/05 600/750 top clamp and enlarge/offset the steering stem hole, but I don't know how much meat there is and the offset makes things interesting (going from 30mm offset to 28mm offset = 2mm travel, going from 25mm bore to 28mm bore = 1.5mm increase in radius, so you wouldn't have a fully round hole unless you used some sort of insert).

 

Don't be surprised if these take 4+ weeks to turn up, also, the mounting points for the gauges won't be far forwards enough to mount them with the ignition in place. You'll have to use at least 55mm brackets, so it won't look perfect if that's your thing (that's definitely my thing so I'm working on a solution!) The alternative is to drill into the back of the light and use two bolts to go through that and into the bracket holes on the inside of the gauge...I'll be lining this up for testing this weekend.

How do I know this? I just took delivery on one from the guy (Mat) and was told it's be 48 hours for delivery...it certainly was not that quick (approx 5 weeks in total), his attitude also stinks when you ask when to expect them. The only change I made was to ask for the ignition to be central so I could mount the gauge properly as I knew it'd be an issue with the ignition off to the right. I can live with a steering lock being on in a forward position, I never park my bikes out in public anyway.

The kit itself is nice quality, I didn't bother with anodizing but I kind of wish I did now, so I might get them powder coated along with the lower triple.



I'll put some more detailed pics up soon.