Hint: Push on the right handlebar to go right.

 

Haha ya I got that. I was more worried about spending too much time in the oncoming lane when i can't see further around the corner.

 

Glad you're okay. You've got some balls to post this.

 

+1

**** that tree could have been the end of it all. Lucky!

 

whoo glad your ok. i agree with your comments when you fell off. sort of confused what happened seemed like a fairly straightforward turn, what started sliding and why?

 

Good thing you didn't slam into one of the trees. Live and learn.

 

That wouldn't have been possible. Only the red ones hit trees!! LOL

:fiddy:

 

:happy1:

 

I think there was some target fixation mixed into it. After you straightened up the bike and got on the binders to scrub speed, you could have got off the brakes and made the turn no problem. I think you looked at big tree and aimed right at it... The turn didn't look very tight at all, but it could just be that wide angle lens of the camera...

 

Glad you are okay. May I suggest reading and applying David Hough's Proficient Motorcycling? There are other great resources out there as well, but that is one of the best for a solid foundation.

These crash threads seem to be way too common on this forum. From your brief description, this crash was apparently easily avoidable, as are almost every one posted. Please study up, and bring your skills and judgement up and enjoy a nice long motorcycling career, including those years when you no longer heal up so quickly.

Cheers.

 

Another brainfart crash. Seems to happen a lot. I blame the Liberals.

 

Funny, I always blamed Liberace... :magpie:

Wouldnt that make you go left if you pushed.

:facepalm:

 

Yeah the turn actually doubles back and the ditch gets around 5ft deep just around the corner..the video doesn't do it justice on the turn but I do agree that it was a partly mental thing...I have seen a couple other riders crash on that corner so that affected me a little.

 

Dioxin?

 

Whoa.... is your camera mounted inside your helmet dude? How did you do that?

 

I put it right behind the breath gaurd and the corners sit on the front edge of the helmet...it sits right against my nose...Like Kryten on youtube....

 

Glad you're ok!

On that camera mounting location, i'd be most worried about getting a laceration on my nose, face, or breaking my nose in a get-off...yuck. I wear a full face helmet, so i can be pretty in the coffin (no one really looks below the chest anyway, and that can be "filler").

As to the turn, I know camera speeds can be a little deceiving compared to actual physical speed...but from the looks of it, and the bend in that turn, you could have made it around that turn by itself without even hitting the breaks...It almost appeared that you could see through the turn before you'd entered it, which makes me think it wasn't that extreme...I can't see what else was coming up (i know you mentioned it doubles back...you'd know better than us). Good luck, live and learn, and keep on riding.

 

Glad you're okay. Good job scrubbing off all that speed before ditching it.

Also agree with the target fixation comments. Right after you regain control your eyes needed to go back up to the exit of the turn. You then have to reengage the turn.

Also, you might have early apexed a bit.

 

"Laying the bike down" is always a cop out for "i didnt have the skill to control my motorcycle so im saying this to save face"

you pretty much crashed on a straight road. there wasnt much of a double apex. i was expecting a technical road

 

you pretty much crashed on a straight road. there wasnt much of a double apex. i was expecting a technical road

My thought exactly - the scariest part of this crash video is it appears the OP barely knew how to ride. Could've gotten killed just like that, and that's no joke. This better be a wake up call.

 

Lame target fixation. Maybe a brainfart as daviddowns2000 said... but still lame.

Glad you're ok, though.

 

Look where you want to go. You were going too fast for your skills. At about 1:50, you are trying hard to lean right. You are all tense on the bike. All you should do at this point is relax, get low, keep on the throttle, and lean right into the turn, just like you started to.

Then you panic. You probably feel that you are leaning too hard even though you are not. You feel that you are going too fast, and brake mid-turn. You regain your control, but by 1:55 you give it up in your head, and prepare for the impact.

I would suggest that you sign up for some track days or advanced riding course. You should not be riding so hard at the street that you panic. Just 1 or 2 track days will make a huge difference.

 

Oh crap, I saw those trees and thought you were going straight into one! Good thing you are ok.

 

Nice wheelies, now if we can just learn to turn we would be awesome!

 

I wish I could wheelie like OP, but not not turn like him.

 

haha at least you honked to warn that tree

It happens.

 

No matter how many times I watch 1:45-1:55, I find myself automatically looking into the turn once the OP recovers, even though the center of the frame is on the trees.

 

The only advice I can give you is -

#1 Slow down.

#2 Never give up on completing a turn even if you think you are in too hot. Add more lean than you are comfortable with to complete the turn. Heading straight off of a corner into the dirt or grass rarely works unless it's a huge flat smooth area where you can scrub off speed slowly without having to make any quick changes in direction. That's the kind of run-off you usually find only at the racetrack. You're really lucky you didn't hit that tree.

#3 Have good tires. It will give you the confidence and added safety to execute #2.

#4 Don't ride alone. They just found a guy that went off the road and crashed. He might have made it if it didn't take a search crew a few days to find him.

EDIT: After listening to the video I realized you jumped-on (locked) the rear brake mid-corner (EDIT 2: it was actually the front - thanks GC - either way it made the bike stand-up, wobble, and run wide, making completeing the turn more difficult but still possible), setting up your off road excursion. You decided you were in too hot and gave up on making the corner at that point. When that happens, see action #2. Also, you're lucky there was no oncoming traffic, or bang - dead.

Jay

 

The only advice I can give you is -

#1 Slow down.

#2 Never give up on completing a turn even if you think you are in too hot. Add more lean than you are comfortable with to complete the turn. Heading straight off of a corner into the dirt or grass rarely works unless it's a huge flat, smooth area where you can scrub off speed slowly without having to make any quick changes in direction. That's the kind of run-off you usually find only at the racetrack. You're really lucky you didn't hit that tree.

#3 Have good tires. It will give you the confidence and added safety to execute #2.

#4 Don't ride alone. They just found a guy that went off the road and crashed. He might have made it if it didn't take a search crew a few days to find him.


Jay

AND

#5 Don't #2 going into a curve.



Glad you're OK. In the past, I've had some much smaller OMG moments. If you don't push too far too fast, it's better than rolling/tumbling/sliding. (or impact )

 

Oh man that tree almost kicked your ass Wupsey. Some folks are clowning you but it's just tough love. We're glad you are ok. I know I had my share of stupid mistakes, just work at it. Time riding + miles doesn't always mean you are experienced. Get some instruction. Your very 1st reaction to a tough situation or a mistake is very important. Develop good positive reflexes not panic, muscle memory and a clear understanding on how to recover.

 

Agreed with other posters. I think you got thrown off and then it just went to ****. I bet you could have pulled through that turn after the upset if you had just calmed down and leaned in.

That being said, I still can't figure out what happened at the beginning of the turn. What the hell was the squeeling? Your tire?

 

Countersteering is real. Other recent news: the earth is actually round.

 

I don't think this guy realizes how lucky he is. Glad you are ok. This is just another case of panic and target fixation.

First of all, I hope you took the MSF. If you did, is there any chance that you remember something like "outside inside outside"??

The only reason why I make reference to that is because your lines on EVERY single turn are messed up. You are hugging the inside and staying on the inside. This is a bad bad habit. If you read proficient motorcycling, you'll understand why.

Now, when I was a complete noob, I used to do the same. The track helped me a lot in this area. Instruction would too.

You really need to improve your technique and you need to slow down since you don't possess the skill yet. Actually, even if you did, road is not your personal track.

 

your lines on EVERY single turn are messed up.

Yeah, this. On the crash turn, you commit the classic error of too-early turn in, which puts you in a real bad situation later, causing your panic and brain-fart. Also all your turn-ins seem very slow/gradual. Wait later to turn in, then flick the bike over as quickly/smoothly as possible. Makes a big difference.