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Which race series is best? I follow MotoGP but hear that World Superbike is better. True or not?
 

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WSBK! Hands down! More riders, more manufacturers, better racers. Its not just follow the leader with 3 second gaps like GP and nobody complains like little third graders (cough cough Pedrosa and the likes). You should definelty try to catch some WSBK races this year. Very exciting. World Supersport is also a very good series to watch.
 

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MotoGP is fun but WSBK takes it hands down. Closer competition with more different riders making it into the top ten. I get tired of watching the same people on the podium week after week, it's why I quit watching AMA superbike altogether.
 

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Nothing against the World Champ Rossi, but Rossi himself said, WSBK had better racing, and he was the one who wanted to challenge Bayliss in a World Superbike event. Rossi and Stoner are great racers, but you have much more talent on a WSBK grid (more people able to finish in top five). Like Liutas said, the poduim doesnt vary much GP to GP.
 

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Nothing against the World Champ Rossi, but Rossi himself said, WSBK had better racing, and he was the one who wanted to challenge Bayliss in a World Superbike event. Rossi and Stoner are great racers, but you have much more talent on a WSBK grid (more people able to finish in top five). Like Liutas said, the poduim doesnt vary much GP to GP.
there's a reason motogp riders make more than twice as much as world superbike riders.

there's a reason rossi races an m1 instead of an r1.

there's a reason why duhamel said racing world superbike over ama superbike was like choosing a dollar bill over four quarters. but he went and raced a privateer man's machine (500gp) in europe.

there's a reason bayliss kicks world superbike ass and had one win in motogp.

there's a reason that there's two former world superbike champions (that i can think of) in motogp, and neither one of them have won a motogp race.

that said, when i watch a motogp race i'm either sleeping by lap three, or looking for repeats of married with children. the 800's are like watching paint dry. it was MUCH more exciting watching guys race sportster 883's.

world supersport and 250gp's are the best racing, imo.
 

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The question wasnt who gets paid the most. It was what races were more exciting to watch. And you have to take in the difficulty it takes to go from a WSBK spec production motorcycle to a prototype GP bike that has almost completely eliminated the rider as far as competition goes (not to take anything away from Rossi and those guys, they are amazing riders). But to be able to blindly trust your electonics at 205 mph... I cant even imagine. Plus how cool is it in WSBK if the person that finishes on top of the podium is riding the same bike you have sitting in your garage?
 

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this should be a poll, i vote motogp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfPM77TsGaA

i'm not super fan, don't follow either series enough to name any backmarkers, but i seemed to catch more motogp races than wsbk races, and i saw the supernatural. i did enjoy watching bayliss dominate, and checa go in waaay to hot trying to take the checker, and all the other great racing, but watching rossi race is like watching an alien laugh at our inferior technology.
 

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WSBK, much closer machines and riders lead to better racing.
It's not uncommon to have 5 bikes battling for the lead on the last lap, when was the last time you saw MotoGP have a nail-bitter finish?
 

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There is a fantastic amount of participation in WSBK. This year Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki, Aprilia, Suzuki, Ducati, BMW and KTM will all have bikes on the grid. Very exciting.

Also, WSBK is double header format so there are TWO races every race weekend.
 

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JSBK!
 

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Bayliss: The 2009 World Superbike Title Will Be Fought Between Haga & Spies
by dean adams
Monday, February 09, 2009 Reigning World Superbike champion Troy Bayliss was in Rome last week for a promotional appearance. While in the land of wine, women and song the Australian was asked to size up the '09 title contenders.
Bayliss--who won the World championships the last two years--told reporters that he thinks that the two riders who will contend for the title this season are Nori Haga and American Ben Spies.
In a controversial move, Haga replaced the retired Bayliss on the factory Ducati team when he retired.
Spies' being tipped for a possible shot at the title by a rider as respected as Bayliss is amazing--considering the American hasn't yet won a single World Superbike race, and in fact, has yet to enter a WSBK race.
 

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Ive seem Spies race and he is very impressive, but to get the vote of Troy Bayliss. Thats gotta say something. Hopefully it will be a tight match all season. I would like to see Byrnes win a couple also. Checa too.
 

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I think Spies will be at a serious disadvantage having never raced on any of the tracks. He's good but I doubt he can make up for that until he learns the tracks.
 

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Well I wrote an article on my website about this recently. I would have to say WSBK as more manufactures and more races are involved. I do however love watching the MotoGP bikes but since they moved to the 800cc class it has not been as exciting except for last year at Laguna Seca. I just hope this year with the new MotoGP tire rule that it could make racing a little tighter. We will all know in a couple months.
 

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There's no doubt that WSBK is more fun to watch, and there is lots of top talent, but MotoGP has the BEST talent (namely Rossi and Stoner). That's why it is the top motorcycle racing series. Bayliss and Haga are absoutely amazing riders, but I'd like to see them go into GP and win as consistently as Rossi and Stoner and not just win but consistently ride at the same level that those two are riding at.
 

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I think Spies will be at a serious disadvantage having never raced on any of the tracks. He's good but I doubt he can make up for that until he learns the tracks.
I can't say that it hurt him in his motogp apperances :dontknow:

and he'll be on a bike relatively similar to his AMA bike (compared to the jump to the GP bike)
 

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I can't say that it hurt him in his motogp apperances :dontknow:

and he'll be on a bike relatively similar to his AMA bike (compared to the jump to the GP bike)
Where did he finish in his GP races last year? I honestly can't remember.

ok, I just checked, he finshed 14th, 8th and 6th. Not bad, but not championship contending, imho.
 

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Where did he finish in his GP races last year? I honestly can't remember.

ok, I just checked, he finshed 14th, 8th and 6th. Not bad, but not championship contending, imho.

I am no Spies fan .. I've always thought he was the American version of Mladin, in other words, cocky, devoid of personality and even less intelligent than Matt ... but I feel that his results in GP were strong.

New rider on new tracks on a less than competitive bike. The only thing he had going for him was that he was on Bridgestones .. which, though the prefered tire, were also new to him
 
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