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http://forum.svrider.com/index.php?topic=47280.msg507554#msg507554
I got the bars a couple days ago and slapped them on. Here's the lowdown.
Comparison 1 The top is 650, bottom 1000. Note the 'steeper' angle on the 650 to make the bar ends parallel.
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Comparison 2 Conversely, put the centers together and see how the bar ends compare (650 on bottom this time). Notice also the lines iin the bar to grip the risers are not the same width. I noticed this on a description (where did I see that?) before I bought it. One row lines up, so I figured that's good enough.
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Won't bore you with installing - very standard stuff.
Installed Looks pretty stock, which I like. The lines I mentioned before show up outside the riser - a little funky, but I have a couple accessories that need switches - bar mounted may be a good way to hide them. Oh yes, bonus! The holes in the 1000 bar match the 650; the tab in the ignition switch goes right into the little hole - no drilling!
Hand position moved out a little wider. Riding position pulled me a bit forward, which I like, but a bit lower than I wanted. I can feel that I want to cut that seat lower now. Also, the peg position is a little funkier (1/2" back would help?) but not bad. I won't mess with that until I figure the seat out first.
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Ridability I totally love what this has done for the steering. I get much more subtle feedback from the bars, and turning requires far less effort. Example: there is a turn (downhill, left, uphill) on my route home that I could take up about 78 mph before having to put some work into it. I breezed through it first try at 85mph - tried again and had to work a little at about 88.
I had to tweedle the bar position a little to get it right. I didn't like the angle of the hands or the amount forward at first, but after rotating the bars 'up' a little more it got much better. I'm still getting used to ; it I think it will be OK within a week. Body position is less favorable for long distance or commuter comfort. Seat change should help.
Conclusion The jury is still out. It's going to be awhile before I can have a full compare between stock and 1000 bars in my brain. Aggressive riding is much better - anyone in Austin knows Lime Creek road - much easier ride, less effort to turn. I'm glad I didn't go the route of getting some of the radically different bars suggested. I prefer to have a 'natural' looking bike; one that appears stock but has the right changes in the right places; gaudy anodized bars with stickers and logos were a minus. I like the comfort of the 650 set better (when I sat on it on the showroomfloor I liked it right away), but for the improved handling of the 1000 bars I can live with a little less Barc-o-lounger.
http://forum.svrider.com/index.php?topic=47280.msg507554#msg507554
I got the bars a couple days ago and slapped them on. Here's the lowdown.
Comparison 1 The top is 650, bottom 1000. Note the 'steeper' angle on the 650 to make the bar ends parallel.
Comparison 2 Conversely, put the centers together and see how the bar ends compare (650 on bottom this time). Notice also the lines iin the bar to grip the risers are not the same width. I noticed this on a description (where did I see that?) before I bought it. One row lines up, so I figured that's good enough.
Won't bore you with installing - very standard stuff.
Installed Looks pretty stock, which I like. The lines I mentioned before show up outside the riser - a little funky, but I have a couple accessories that need switches - bar mounted may be a good way to hide them. Oh yes, bonus! The holes in the 1000 bar match the 650; the tab in the ignition switch goes right into the little hole - no drilling!
Hand position moved out a little wider. Riding position pulled me a bit forward, which I like, but a bit lower than I wanted. I can feel that I want to cut that seat lower now. Also, the peg position is a little funkier (1/2" back would help?) but not bad. I won't mess with that until I figure the seat out first.
Ridability I totally love what this has done for the steering. I get much more subtle feedback from the bars, and turning requires far less effort. Example: there is a turn (downhill, left, uphill) on my route home that I could take up about 78 mph before having to put some work into it. I breezed through it first try at 85mph - tried again and had to work a little at about 88.
I had to tweedle the bar position a little to get it right. I didn't like the angle of the hands or the amount forward at first, but after rotating the bars 'up' a little more it got much better. I'm still getting used to ; it I think it will be OK within a week. Body position is less favorable for long distance or commuter comfort. Seat change should help.
Conclusion The jury is still out. It's going to be awhile before I can have a full compare between stock and 1000 bars in my brain. Aggressive riding is much better - anyone in Austin knows Lime Creek road - much easier ride, less effort to turn. I'm glad I didn't go the route of getting some of the radically different bars suggested. I prefer to have a 'natural' looking bike; one that appears stock but has the right changes in the right places; gaudy anodized bars with stickers and logos were a minus. I like the comfort of the 650 set better (when I sat on it on the showroomfloor I liked it right away), but for the improved handling of the 1000 bars I can live with a little less Barc-o-lounger.
