Suburban Machinery handlebars question

[offtopic] raybee, these pictures along with the ones in your bar end mirror thread look friggin' awesome. I love the DoF effect, and also how your driveway almost matches the color of the bike.

[ontopic] How we do the Type 1's feel when riding longer distances? I have a Bikemaster Superbike bar on right now, and will use it for my longer trips (like 300+ miles) but I'd like to get type 1 SM's for trackdays and short runs. If they're pretty decent for longer rides, I may leave them on. $170 is a but much to throw down if I'm not sure about them.

If it matters, I'm pretty short (5'7"). I tend to like leaning forward, for wind and bumps.

Mudsurfer1234 said:

[offtopic] raybee, these pictures along with the ones in your bar end mirror thread look friggin' awesome. I love the DoF effect, and also how your driveway almost matches the color of the bike.

[ontopic] How we do the Type 1's feel when riding longer distances? I have a Bikemaster Superbike bar on right now, and will use it for my longer trips (like 300+ miles) but I'd like to get type 1 SM's for trackdays and short runs. If they're pretty decent for longer rides, I may leave them on. $170 is a but much to throw down if I'm not sure about them.

If it matters, I'm pretty short (5'7"). I tend to like leaning forward, for wind and bumps.

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Thanks for the compliments! It's actually my good friend/roommates skills on the photography. I'll be sure to pass on the compliments tho!

As for the Type 1s, I haven't yet tested them on long distances. I just put them on (from stock) a few days ago so the longest I've rode them in one session so far is a little under 50 miles.

So far I love them. I'm the same height as you, and I ride similar (leaned forward). Initially I did experience a little bit of strain/tiredness on my wrists due to my clutch/brake handles positioned too low. But since I adjusted them I've had no issues with that anymore. Other than that my short rides have been x2 more fun. I haven't experienced any strain on my arms/back yet. But I'll be taking it out for a long ride this weekend so I'll post more info on handling/feel if I do feel any of that.

$170 is a grip. That's not even including Tax and Shipping... I found mine online and was able to pick them up locally. So I lucked out ^^

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nice pic man, looks like a model or something, nice SV

Raybee, did you have any trouble with the clutch cable? I put a drag bar on, and it forced the clutch cable to bend sharply, and also hit the back of the headlight, making the clutch hard to pull. Would an 'S' clutch cable be needed? or does the stock N cable suffice?

Thanks for your help.

I got the SM type 2 bar, it's a great riding position. All my stock 06 naked controls work fine, plus they come pre-drilled. Well worth the money IMO.

I went with the T-2 because so much of my riding is stop and go commuting and traffic. The T-1 would have been a little too low for my shoulders and wrists in rush hour. Now if the SV were primarily a toy or a track bike I would have went with the 1 over the 2.

This might be a dumb question, but I'm new to the street bike scene. What do you mean by a type 1 or a type 2 bar? I need new bars for my bike, and I will be doing a lot of stop and go city type driving so it sounds like the type 2 are the bars i need to go with, but I dont know what that means. Any help?

The Type 1 or Type 2 are two different aftermarket handlebars made by Suburban Machinery (http://www.suburban-machinery.com/sv650.htm). Not required at all, unless you want to upgrade or change the riding position.

Mudsurfer1234 said:

Raybee, did you have any trouble with the clutch cable? I put a drag bar on, and it forced the clutch cable to bend sharply, and also hit the back of the headlight, making the clutch hard to pull. Would an 'S' clutch cable be needed? or does the stock N cable suffice?

Thanks for your help.

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I didn't have any trouble at all with the stock N clutch cable at all. It does look like it's bent pretty sharp, but I don't have any probs engaging/disengaging the clutch.

I've been having he same debate about Type 1 vs. Type 2. Does anyone have experience with both, and able to offer comparisons? I'd really like to see a side-view pic of the Type 2 bars. SM has a side view of the T1 but not the T2 (http://www.suburban-machinery.com/sv650.htm).

ADH said:

Here is my bike with the type 2 bars

As I wrote in another thread:

PROS -
1) During acceleration or at high speeds its a lot easier to lay over the tank a little bit.
2) It keeps my elbows lower and out of the way of my mirrors
3) Overall weight distribution and posture (although only minorly changed) makes the bike feel a bit more like the "S" model while still retaining a little bit of the upright goodness of the naked.
4) They look awesome

CONS -
1) It IS a little rougher on my shoulder, back, and wrists (but only a little).
2) The SM2 bars don't have the scoring on them that the factory bars do making them a bit tougher to get centered properly.
3) They are a little spendy

CONCLUSION -
Get 'em!

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Hi i am trying to get new handlebars for my sv, where can i get the type 1 or what brand are they? is a `01.. a friend told me to get clubmans, i am new and is my firts bike so i wanna learn more.. jam41886

Type 1 is the 'base' bar. I *loved* mine on my 1gen naked in '06 - '07, had a flyscreen and Scotts damper on it... perfect height and angle (rotate in clamps to change) for naked pegs on my 5' 10" frame.

Type 2 is basically the same bar, but welded differently to allow access to the preload adjusters without unclamping the bars. They put the bars a bit further forward of an identical Type 1, just over an inch. This affects the angle difference when you rotate the bars in-clamp to adjust riding position. The same rotation on a Type 1 is slightly different with a Type 2, just FYI.

I am currently seeking a clipon that can replicate the old Type 1 position I had before going to an SRAD front end. They were that good. TL bars are slightly low and the odd droop, which I liked initially, turned out in the end to aggravate my forearm break from '07. For a 2gen or '02 1gen, I'd go Type 2. Pre-'02 1gen, Type 1.

raybee said:

I just recently installed Type 1's on my 650. Chose those cos I wanted something close to clipons (type 2s aren't as aggressive).

My bike feels totally different now, in a very good way. It's exactly what I was looking for.

;D

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Where did you grt your type 1 ? i like how they look , would it fit my `01 sv?

I have the SM type 1. I believe it enhances the handling of the bike. It is much more comfortable while leaned over in corners. I will admit that freeway riding may be less comfortable due to more weight on the wrists..... so it depends on what kind of riding you want to do. BTW I might have a set of SM1s available in a week or so.

+ 1 for Type I

I bought a used `99 naked back in April, and it had the Type I bars already installed. I live at the base of the Sierras, and 90% of my riding is in the hills. I thought about maybe trying stock bars, but the TIs are so nice I can't see myself going back to the higher bars. I'm 6'2" and the furthest I've gone is 120 miles, but no back or wrist problems.