[budman8312]

Ok I was able to find this on the 1st gen forum but what about the 03 and up sv???
what are the. if any the affects of using pod filters on an 03 with a slip on ????
sorry if this is a repost

 

[budman8312]

really no thoughts

 

[budman8312]

I Guess I'll try it and see if any the reprocutions

 

[wacky_woodchuck]

You will need a PCIII and some serious dyno time to get the mapping right. You'll be flowing a LOT of air, and the stock fuel map will be grossly inadequate. It'll run, with just pod filters and a slip-on without a PCIII, but you'll be VERY VERY lean.

 

[bighammer]

I'm curious how much pods really changes the airflow. I think the airbox is more for noise control than performance. (but that's just my opinion not backed by any numbers)

 

[wacky_woodchuck]

I'm curious how much pods really changes the airflow. I think the airbox is more for noise control than performance. (but that's just my opinion not backed by any numbers)

Suprisingly, the airbox does much more than just supress noise.

The engine is a essentially an air pump. The air box creates a volume of air at a resonance that the engine desires. This creates an efficent motor. Hence why when going to pods, you need to throw a lot of fuel into the engine. You may get more power, but at the expense of fuel economy. I must say, the stock Suzuki air box is VERY good in power output vs fuel economy.

On a second gen, using a larger air intake (SV1000 snorkle) nets tad better power, without a lot of noise increase.

To see how much pods change the air flow, just look at the stock box and the restrictions in it. Pods, those are gone. The air flows directly into the intake tract. With the airbox, it is regulated into the intake tract.

I'm all for pods, I run them on my first gen with flat slides....the noise is worth the price of admission (for a short ride street bike/trackbike).

 

[Daimler-Maybach]

well when you find out, let us know! new place for a battery?

 

[bighammer]

Or an extra gallon of fuel.

 

[dream36realms]

trouble is that with the lack of proper sensors the SV isnt aware that it has extra airflow causing afr to raise over stoich. As rumor has it the SV is above as is which is bad juju if you are wored about things like say burnt valves or detonation (pre-ignition for those mustang guys). Since we do not have a MAP or MAF plus the all so powerful O2 sensor it is pointless to change the flow dynamics unless you can get some dyno time and a tuning sollution (pc3 or hack). I say buy them and use them but be warned you CAN cause damage to the bike. If you have a PC3 or a dyno nearby with the capabilities to hack your stock computer than more fun to you. I will be running them once I get my pc3 in. also be advised that you will need a full exhaust and bigger TB's to get the full potential of this mod.

 

[budman8312]

I thought I heard some where, that the 03 sv being the first fi sv that they ran a little rich compared to the latter models is that not true????????

 

[wacky_woodchuck]

I thought I heard some where, that the 03 sv being the first fi sv that they ran a little rich compared to the latter models is that not true????????

Not rich enough to add pods and not worry about burnt valves.

Let's put it this way... on a first gen SV, stock jet size is a 137.5. Adding a 140/142.5 jet makes the bike a bit better. Opening the first, but leaving the air box you run a 152.5 main jet. Adding pod filters and you are in the 220 main jet size.

So yeah, the stock FI brain will not account for pod filters.

Main jets increase in size every 2.5 digits. (Also these are all Mikuni sizes).