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i know everyone isnt into the whole stunting scene, and personally, i love the twisties way more... but ocassionally i like to mess around in this big industrial lot with some other friends.

anyways, i learned how to shift into second gear while having the front end up today. i can get it on the balance point in second gear and ride them for a pretty good distance now. ive also been playing with second gear power ups while standing up and ive had good luck with riding them a decent ways as well.

i heard a while back that if you ride alot of wheelies you can starve the front cylinder for oil. i definately dont want to do that, and wheelies arent worth my engine, but could someone verify that? can i just add some more oil into the engine?

just curious..
 

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like i said, im not into it like alot of other guys, i just like messing around every now and then.

i heard some of the gsxr guys that are into stunting put extra oil in the engine to keep it from starving of oil.

how can it hurt the engine? the only problem with extra oil is the risk of it hitting the piston rings and getting into the combustion camber. i dont see how it can harm the engine unless you put ALOT of extra oil in there.
 

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jonesdb said:
Oxi-Rider said:
onepointone said:
how can it hurt the engine? the only problem with extra oil is the risk of it hitting the piston rings and getting into the combustion camber. i dont see how it can harm the engine unless you put ALOT of extra oil in there.
Since when is oil getting into the combustion chamber past the rings not "bad"? Start buringin oil, start coating the inside of your combuistion chamber with grime, start getting misses, start ...etc etc.etc.

If you read what he said/implied....He didnt say it wasnt a problem....your not going to force oil past the rings unless you added way way too much...like double normal.
thank you.

i know its a problem when it gets past the ring. im not an idiot when it comes to mechanics by a long shot, i was just wondering about oil starvation. has anyone ever heard of a motor messing up from just constant wheelies? i mean, i know if you beat the shit out of it all the time, its going to mess up. im not even worried about my engine, much less doing wheelies, im just curious as to what other people have actually experiened.

the whole "oil foaming" thing is a good concept, but i dont know if i buy it. i have never heard of oil foaming because of this. as you move around, the oil moves to different sides of the oil pan, same with cars, and it is going to submerge the crankshaft a little bit in oil. i dont really know where im going with that, but i just dont see oil foaming because of that.

im not saying it couldnt happen, so dont get offended, just my thinking on things.
 

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TRaGiK said:
onepointone said:
the whole "oil foaming" thing is a good concept, but i dont know if i buy it. i have never heard of oil foaming because of this. as you move around, the oil moves to different sides of the oil pan, same with cars, and it is going to submerge the crankshaft a little bit in oil. i dont really know where im going with that, but i just dont see oil foaming because of that.
Believe it. It can happen with nearly every kind of engine, including bikes and cars. Overfilling oil is/can be BAD and will foam the oil. Foamed oil is nearly the same as no oil at all.

I am a Auto Mechanic and have seen it happen before.
i am also a mechanic. i have been working at a lexus dealership for 2 years, and have been around cars since i was 13. i just have never seen it before.

thanks for the responses.
 

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Matoo said:
onepointone said:
TRaGiK said:
onepointone said:
the whole "oil foaming" thing is a good concept, but i dont know if i buy it. i have never heard of oil foaming because of this. as you move around, the oil moves to different sides of the oil pan, same with cars, and it is going to submerge the crankshaft a little bit in oil. i dont really know where im going with that, but i just dont see oil foaming because of that.
Believe it. It can happen with nearly every kind of engine, including bikes and cars. Overfilling oil is/can be BAD and will foam the oil. Foamed oil is nearly the same as no oil at all.

I am a Auto Mechanic and have seen it happen before.
i am also a mechanic. i have been working at a lexus dealership for 2 years, and have been around cars since i was 13. i just have never seen it before.

No offence, but if you are any kind of mechanic you should know that over filling can foam the oil. It's engine 101 stuff, not some magical excuse to not wheelie.
It's really a common knowledge thing.
thanks for the responses. :?

calm down... dont go trying to say im some shitty mechanic because i missed that part of 'engine 101'... :roll:

i never said i didnt think it could happen, i had just never heard of it.
 

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yea, look at me, im suuuuch a badass because i can do wheelies ::)

i never said it was cool. i was just asking a question, i got my answer, shit, i even got made to look like a little bit of a dumbass. im cool with that, but you havent added anything to the thread except that stupid comment.
 

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Yellow Nudist said:
Wow, I'm being ragged on by a wheelie toting newb.  Well hey there little fella, go ahead an blow your motor up.  I will be sure to make the same post when you have a thread in the wanted section, "Needed SV Motor, because Im a complete jackass".  ;D
haha, im a 'wheelie toting newb' now...

just because i have 40 posts and i asked a legit question (which i guess that makes me a newb to bikes...) doesnt give you the right to come here and be a jackass. call me a newb all you want, you really hurt my feelings over the internet ::)


i see no reason for this thread to stay open, i got what i needed.
 

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i dont think its worth it. like i said in my first post im more into actually riding the bike. but alot of my friends like to mess around with wheelies in so on in this huge parking lot near my house... so i tried some stuff. the past 2 times we went out there, i just sat around and watched. im not really trying to get a new engine any time soon.
 
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