Hello All-
Brief intro. Took the MSF course and have had my license for about 4 years now. Ridden a couple SV's and loved em. Also a few rides on a 883 sportster. I am feeling as if I'm nearing the time to actually buy myself a bike. I have a couple close friends who ride, as well as 4 people at my office (in a group of about 12 no less!). I apologize in advance if these questions have been posted elsewhere. Searching didn't seem to come up with many difinitive answers.
Regarding the SV: Here in the bay area, used ones seem to be selling for fairly high prices. I am a little reluctant to spend a ton of money on an older bike and have considered buying new, which I know some say is a no-no. In addition, I am also considering the Kawa 500r. There are many used, later model bikes for a good less than a comparable SV. I am 6', approx 200lbs. I am looking for a bike thats easy to ride fast, but more upright and comfy. I also don't want to grow out of it quickly. Recommendations?
This leads to my second question. After stopping at Bike World in Sunnyvale (I live in the bay area) and learning about the two bikes, the guy came out and said "we can definitely work well with you on price for a SV". I realize this could be dealership BS, but it didn't seem to come across as such. Just more as "we have several SV's, they're not rare or hard to get, and getting to the end of the model year there is decent wiggle room."
What is a fair price out the door for a new bike? What would you consider as an excellent deal? If not bike world, who in the bay area can generally offer the best pricing?
Lastly, the gear. I want very very good protection, but also a good value. I don't care so much about brand as much as I want my money to go the furthest. Recommendations? Good shops? Obviously cycle gear. Motojava. SF Moto, road rider san jose. Anywhere else?
Finally, how did you get over that side of you that says motorcycles are just too dangerous and you're crazy for buying one? I am an incredibly safe driver, never been in an accident in 10 years on the road. No speeding tickets. Realize there are no guarantees, but whats the real deal on intelligent riders vs those who aren't and skew the statistics? When I'm on a motorcycle, its like no other feeling in the world. When I sit on the computer, my smart side kicks in and I think I'm crazy. I love my Miata, but its not a vault by any means. Yet I don't feel like I'm in a death trap with that thing. And of course everyone knows someone who knows someone who died on a motorcycle. I guess I still am going back and forth. The feeling of freedom vs the fact they just aren't as safe and people just don't see you.
Anyway, long post. My apologies. Any advice, especially on bikes is recommended. Even if it isn't an SV, if there is a better value starting bike out there, I'm open to em as well. EDIT: Opinion on the SV standard vs the VStrom 650 as well.
Brief intro. Took the MSF course and have had my license for about 4 years now. Ridden a couple SV's and loved em. Also a few rides on a 883 sportster. I am feeling as if I'm nearing the time to actually buy myself a bike. I have a couple close friends who ride, as well as 4 people at my office (in a group of about 12 no less!). I apologize in advance if these questions have been posted elsewhere. Searching didn't seem to come up with many difinitive answers.
Regarding the SV: Here in the bay area, used ones seem to be selling for fairly high prices. I am a little reluctant to spend a ton of money on an older bike and have considered buying new, which I know some say is a no-no. In addition, I am also considering the Kawa 500r. There are many used, later model bikes for a good less than a comparable SV. I am 6', approx 200lbs. I am looking for a bike thats easy to ride fast, but more upright and comfy. I also don't want to grow out of it quickly. Recommendations?
This leads to my second question. After stopping at Bike World in Sunnyvale (I live in the bay area) and learning about the two bikes, the guy came out and said "we can definitely work well with you on price for a SV". I realize this could be dealership BS, but it didn't seem to come across as such. Just more as "we have several SV's, they're not rare or hard to get, and getting to the end of the model year there is decent wiggle room."
What is a fair price out the door for a new bike? What would you consider as an excellent deal? If not bike world, who in the bay area can generally offer the best pricing?
Lastly, the gear. I want very very good protection, but also a good value. I don't care so much about brand as much as I want my money to go the furthest. Recommendations? Good shops? Obviously cycle gear. Motojava. SF Moto, road rider san jose. Anywhere else?
Finally, how did you get over that side of you that says motorcycles are just too dangerous and you're crazy for buying one? I am an incredibly safe driver, never been in an accident in 10 years on the road. No speeding tickets. Realize there are no guarantees, but whats the real deal on intelligent riders vs those who aren't and skew the statistics? When I'm on a motorcycle, its like no other feeling in the world. When I sit on the computer, my smart side kicks in and I think I'm crazy. I love my Miata, but its not a vault by any means. Yet I don't feel like I'm in a death trap with that thing. And of course everyone knows someone who knows someone who died on a motorcycle. I guess I still am going back and forth. The feeling of freedom vs the fact they just aren't as safe and people just don't see you.
Anyway, long post. My apologies. Any advice, especially on bikes is recommended. Even if it isn't an SV, if there is a better value starting bike out there, I'm open to em as well. EDIT: Opinion on the SV standard vs the VStrom 650 as well.