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Thought I'd start a thread about my racing exploits 'down under'. Could be an instant cure for the insomniacs among you Lol. :zzz:

I've just completed my fourth season of racing in the local provincial championship called the Southland Cup. I race in a class called Formula 3 / Superlite which is dominated by SV 650s, the odd 600 four with one cylinder disabled (effectively a 450cc triple) and a few old 400 fours plus the odd 300 twin. Bit of a motley collection you could say :). I've managed to win the class title three years running now but it sounds more impressive than it really is. Unfortunately the grid numbers and strength of competition in my province is really poor, so as long as you rock up for all six rounds (18 races) and do OK with no DNF's then your pretty much going to be placed in the top three at seasons end and take a sash home.

So it's a bit of a local track hero scenario for me which means when I poke my nose out of my home province I get my butt kicked :icon_biggrin:
Last summer I had a huge reality check when I decided to try my hand at the Nationals in the Pro Twins class. At the first round I qualified 16th out of 18 riders which I kinda expected but in the race I was dead last by a country mile Ha ha. I was quite despondent and could have easily packed up and gone home then but I had paid big money to compete in four of the five rounds over the summer so that was what I did. Long story short, I ended up 15th out of 25 riders over the course of the competition but my placing was enhanced by some riders only doing a couple of rounds. There was a huge attrition rate over the five rounds with bike failures and broken bones so we went from a best of 19 starting riders on the grid to 11 by the last race of the last round. I was very consistent at least and finished all 12 of my races (three per round) with no offs or mechanical issues. I did get faster and even beat a couple of riders in round three which put a smile back on my dial.

I'm a sucker for punishment so this summer in January I will be again competing in the two South Island rounds of the Nats. I wont venture North this year though as it cost me a bomb to be tail end Charlie last time.
This year I wont have the same expectations of myself and just plan to enjoy it more and try and improve my lap times and hopefully placings. Won't be my first time learning the tracks either and will have some data to use as a guide to how well i'm doing. Looking forward to it, will keep ya's posted.

Before I wrap this up I'd like to say what a great run I've had with the SV mechanically. Admittedly being an engineer I'm pretty hot on maintenance and constantly checking the bike over etc but man it's been good just to park the bike up between race weekends and not have to spend hours in the garage or even worse have issues at the track. They really do seem to be able to take a bit of punishment these bikes. Most of my time has involved getting the suspension set up right and I'm pretty happy with it now.

Thanks to all of you who have answered some of my many questions the last three years. There is a wealth of knowledge on this forum.

Here's a pic from the last meeting:
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Well I went a lot better in the National rounds this year and made good progress, possibly better than expected.
I had a feeling after the Friday practice day at Round one that I was going OK, but deliberately wasn't recording lap times so I didn't get distracted with all that and start putting myself under pressure. In the first official timed practice on Saturday morn I was 4 seconds a lap quicker than last year, so that was real encouraging. Unfortunately in the first race a guy knocked me off the track when he lost his front end. I managed to stay on the bike though and rejoined the race in dead last. That's racing..
Race 2 on Sunday morning I got a good start passing four riders off the line and managed to hang on to that spot bar one rider getting past me. I ended up 13th outta 19 though there were a couple of DNF's ahead of me. Much better than being last and not even being able to keep up with the 2nd last place getter like last year!
One of the biggest benefits of being able to keep up with the race pace was that (apart from getting a tow) I could now see where I was losing time and what I needed to work on and where I need to push harder.
Race 3 on Sunday afternoon was in 31 degree heat (88F) and being the Southerner I am I did wilt a bit and found it hard to focus. I dropped a spot to come in 14th. I knocked 3.1 seconds off my PB at that track though and came away well happy :)

The next weekend at Round 2 was a touch cooler and pretty much perfect racing conditions . I had my mojo flowing by now and put in another good showing with a 13th, 13th and 14th. The pace was hotter this year and the new young guns out front were breaking the Pro Twins lap records. Comparing my best race time in Race 2, I can see that would have put me in 9th spot last year.
I knocked 2.2 seconds off my PB at this track.
The mighty SV didnt miss a beat, used a touch of oil and no coolant.

So I'm looking forward to next year already and know exactly what corners I need to work on. Regarding working on myself, I've just signed up for all four levels of the Cali SBK School which I will do in Australia this winter. Hopefully they can knock all my bad habits out of me lol.

A few pics from the Nats:

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New Season, new bike.

We kicked off the (Southern hemisphere) racing season last weekend and about time after six months off the bike due to Covid-19 and then winter. Accordingly I didn't beat myself up too much over my rusty lap times. I did enough to secure two wins and a second placing. There was the usual lack of competition but we have a new 14yr old in our Formula 3 class this season riding a KTM moto 3 bike. It's a few years old but still quick enough and he knows what he's about. I have to admit he is quicker through the bends than myself so I have to make up time down the back straight with the SV's small power advantage.

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Really pleased with the new Gen 3 bike and I didnt have any teething problems despite my modifications and tinkerings over the winter. It needs a paint job now but feels very stable and planted on the track. And the 4 pot brakes are streets ahead of the Gen 2. Power wise it feels pretty similar and that was reflected in my terminal speed down the main straight (just shy of 130MPH). So really pleased thus far.

For those interested this is what I changed on the bike from stock:

M4 full system
Flashed ECU using Woolich software (done on a Dyno)
Remove all emissions crap.
Remove ABS system
Nitron NTR3 rear shock
Racetech fork springs
Traxxion dynamic damper rods + emulators.
Vortex clip ons
Venhill braided lines
Chinese rear sets
GB racing engine case protectors
Techspec tank grips
Yoyodene slipper clutch
Adjustable clutch lever


I still haven't quite worked out what I'm going to do with the tail unit. I'd like a Hot bodies but freight is criminal from the States to this part of the world. Meanwhile I've got a ebay pillion seat cowl on there.

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Kiwi, do you have more pics of your Gen 3 race bike? I got really interested in some details.
Another quesion: Have you remaped the ECU? What did you do? Added a module or remaped the stock one?
Does it worth it?

Congratulations for your progress, 4s faster is A LOT in a lap! You do a great job! Good luck!
 

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Kiwi, do you have more pics of your Gen 3 race bike? I got really interested in some details.
Another quesion: Have you remaped the ECU? What did you do? Added a module or remaped the stock one?
Does it worth it?

Congratulations for your progress, 4s faster is A LOT in a lap! You do a great job! Good luck!
Thanks. I remapped the stock ECU. I got an experienced Dyno tuner who has a good name in the racing circles to do it. He uses the Woolich software. Most definitely worth it and essential in my opinion. My bike was running really rich at high RPM's with the M4 full system. We gained a couple of HP's just by sorting that issue alone.

I have a couple more pics, just tell me what bits your interested in and can take more if need be. It will look miles better when it's painted up and sponsor detail is added. About 6 weeks away yet.

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I have a full system, but I gave up of it because it's too loud to run on the streets and gives me headaches hahaha
Well, I'm interested in the dashboard area and if you have replaced the brake lines.
I'm in doubt about buying an ABS brake lines kit or just bypassing it. I don't like the abs behavior in bikes, and the SV is my first bike with it.

Thank you!
 

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Looks good, I'll get back to you. I'm just about to load up the van and head away to a race meeting for three days.
 

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Looks good, I'll get back to you. I'm just about to load up the van and head away to a race meeting for three days.
How's the season going mate? I'm about to park mine for the winter and would be great to see how you get on.

Curious to know if you've done anything with the passenger pegs / exhaust hanger? After I installed rearsets on mine, movement of my right foot was restricted by the exhaust hanger. It's an issue when tucking my right foot in on right turns.

Here's the exhaust hanger (S2 Concept) that I have:
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If I flip it and slide the exhaust clamp further up, it gives me the room I need for my right foot:
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Now the M4 race mount design makes a lot more sense to me:
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I'll probably have something similar fabricated in the off-season or just cut the back end off the piece that I have.
 

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How's the season going mate? I'm about to park mine for the winter and would be great to see how you get on.
Howdy, yeah if there's people interested I'm happy to file regular race reports.
I've had a meeting since my last report further afield at a tougher competition kinda between the level of my local track series and the Nationals. I'd been to this track twice previously at National events but for some reason I failed to fire. I was 11th, 10th and 10th out of a grid of 21. Probably sounds OKish but I'm not there to make up the numbers and I was a couple of seconds off my pace at the national events. It was a13hr round trip driving so a long way to go to be slow! I'll tack a couple of pics on at the bottom. I have Round 2 of our local competition on Sunday and I will have the bit between my teeth for sure after a poor showing last time out.

I'm reluctant to blame the new bike, it was more the wingnut attached to the handle bars lol. I am probably still getting used to the new bike though to be fair but it all feels good. Much more stable than the Gen 2. And I love the brakes of course.

I'm waiting on a hotbodies tail section from the States so the bike still looks like a bitsa and is all sorts of colours..I'm running my old black Gen 2 rims at present. Hotbodies seemed to be the only outfit I could find making Gen 3 race bodywork using a google search. I want something that I know is going to bolt on the bike.

Funny you should mention the exhaust hanger as tomorrow I'm going into the workshop to make an aluminum one. At present I still have the heavy steel stock one minus passenger pegs and the attachment tabs for peg pins ground off. This is one of the last jobs to do bar the tail section and painting. I'm making it out of two bits of 8mm x 22mm flat. Hopefully it doesn't look too home made.

Did I mention that i screwed up my M4 order and ordered the street version in my haste. pisses me off every time I think of it. STG say you cant buy the race bend mid pipe separately. I tried M4 direct but they didnt respond to my e-mail.

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Howdy, yeah if there's people interested I'm happy to file regular race reports.
I'm definitely interested. I haven't seen much for the 3rd Gen so it'll be a great resource for others as they see more track time as well. There was a 44Teeth episode up this week of a race weekend that was a great watch!

Good luck this Sunday - let us know how it goes. I'm done for the season now as a planned track day next week got cancelled due to a larger drag racing event at the track... Bummer....

S2 Concept out of France also makes a tail section. I got my short headlight replacement fairing from them. I might pick up the tail section over the winter.

Yeah looking back now, I think for a track/race bike the M4 race exhaust is the best option out there. Actually, I think I knew that before, just have a soft spot for SC Project exhausts - they've had me since I got a titanium exhaust back in the day and laid eyes on those perfect TIG welded dimes...
 

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ha ha, yeah they do good work SC Project. I just saw what everyone else was running pretty much and the dyno tuner guy said M4 for best power. But I wonder if he has ever dyno'd a SV with an SC Project, probably not in a little scene like NZ.

I quite like that compact look of the S2 tail. Maybe not the best for fitting numbers too but a bit cheaper than the $200USD Hotbodies option. Nice.

Yeah I'd imagine you have quite a short season in Canada with your harsher winters. What Province you in?
We race 9 months out of 12 but the bulk of it and National events is December till the end of March.

I'll post up a pic at end of play tomorrow once I get the hanger made.
 

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I'll post up a pic at end of play tomorrow once I get the hanger made.
So here it is. Needs a final fettle and paint, I just got it done and on to race tomorrow. It's strong enough but unfortunately I'm $hit at TIG aluminum welding lol.

Some photo's taken in the back of the van:

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Looks good!

9/12 months sounds like a dream. Where in NZ are you? Are there a fair number of tracks nearby?

I'm in Toronto so track days typically run from late May to late September here so 4 months. We have a good number of tracks within 3 hours drive - just a matter of making the most of the short window.

Best of luck on race day tomorrow.
 

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I'm in the far southwest so probably as far as you can get from the tracks! Te Anau is the town (pop 2000). Nearest track (Teretonga) is 4hrs rtn, nxt closest is 13hr rtn and it gets worse from there... :whistle:
 

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How goes the season?
Yeah going OK thanks. I had two wins at my last club meeting and sat out the last race due to wet track. Wasn't much competition there to push me to be honest. I have a bigger meeting tomorrow, it's the second round of the South Island cup and it's at my local club track which makes for less travel for me. Should be some fast guys there to give me a nudge!
I've got today (friday) off to prep bike so I'd better get out there. I only got the hotbodies tail piece on monday and needs a few tweaks to get siting right as it's a touch low at the front. But all the mount points are in the right place and it looks good. I'm really looking forward to getting the bike painted after this meeting, it doesn't look like a $17K NZD investment lol.
 

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Awesome - best of luck in Round 2. I'm curious to know how the hotbodies tail gets fixed to the bike. Do they provide fasteners or do you have to figure something out? I imagine it's pretty snug at the rear, but what about the front where it meets the tank?
 

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Awesome - best of luck in Round 2. I'm curious to know how the hotbodies tail gets fixed to the bike. Do they provide fasteners or do you have to figure something out? I imagine it's pretty snug at the rear, but what about the front where it meets the tank?
It fits perfectly where it meets the tank. I guess this is one of the main benefits of buying a model specific item. I split a piece of rubber tubing and fitted it over the front edge though to stop the fiber glass scratching the tank.
It's kind of an odd design as it has three sets of molded lugs that rest on the frame where there are matching threaded screw holes.. I just used the two middle 8mm ones and that is well strong enough to stop any movement given that the fit against the tank is snug. You have to drill the holes in the bottom of the lug wells for the bolts to go through but this is good as it allows for any variation so you can get the holes in just the right spot. It didnt come with any fasteners but I had some 8mm large diameter button head allen screws in my bits and pieces container.
It does sit quite low so under the front set of lugs (obscured in my photo by the blue seat squab) I bolted on to the frame two 1/2" tall spacers to lift it a bit. I'm 5'10" and the distance between the seat and the pegs was a touch tight.
It's made from quite thick fiber glass and feels really strong and robust.
I'm just home from my race meet and dead beat but I will take it off the bike tomorrow and take some pics of the underneath side. Meanwhile here are some 'file' pics lol.

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Oh yeah, the racing went well today, I was 2nd in all three races. There was a young 14yr old on a KTM moto 3 type bike giving me a run for my money. I never thought a 250cc single could go so quick!
 
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