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I'm looking into doing the retrofit for my 02 sv650s. I plan on buying FX-R 3.0 Projectors, but I realized after looking at the headlight lens it is not clear like the second generations.

Is there some time of clear lens we can purchase or any advice on installing a Projector into our housing?

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The newer sv650s seem to have a clear lens on the front of the headlight... unlike the first gen.
 

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I actually looked into this too. I was told earlier European SVs actually have one side clear lens. So if you get your hands on that headlight assembly that leaves you with one clear lens. Someone suggested to sand the other lens down to a real real fine finish to make it clear (you could also do that for both too)


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You can always do straight HID's without the projector. I just install some in my cyclops headlight. Tread here Really happy with how it turned out.
 

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Would anyone happen to know if the lens itself is removable from the headlight? I would purchase the lenses used off another sv650s then to attempt to sand them down and if it would turn out well, then use them for the retrofit on my headlight
 

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If I do HID's it would be with projectors, I'm not a fan of HID's in reflective housing.
+1, that's good right there.

I had a 1st gen light with the single projector and it was decent with an HID setup.
Haven't had it in years but here's pics anyway.





I ended up finding it through someone on SV650.org that had gotten it from another country (spain maybe?). Took some time to find it and shipping wasn't cheap.
 

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If I do HID's it would be with projectors, I'm not a fan of HID's in reflective housing.
I like having one of each. Gives a better spread of light but I would take two HID's over reqular bulbs any day.
 

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Thanks for the advice. Makes me wish I had a second gen.. especially because I also wanted the led strip taillights.

+1, that's good right there.

I had a 1st gen light with the single projector and it was decent with an HID setup.
Haven't had it in years but here's pics anyway.


I ended up finding it through someone on SV650.org that had gotten it from another country (spain maybe?). Took some time to find it and shipping wasn't cheap.
 

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I think I am going to just sand down the textured plastic front lens and make it clear. Does anyone know if the plastic lens on first gen headlights is removable? I would be interested in buying them off a parted out sv.
 

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Yes it's similar in that doing the retrofit you bake the headlights and all that fun stuff, but in the case of the first gen sv's the lens itself is actually a textured plastic lens (refer to photo on page 1). So unlike the subarus which already have a clear lens, I'm gonna have to end up sanding it down to the point where it becomes clear. The retrofitting and all that isn't the problem, it's the sanding of the lens to hopefully make it clear.

Done this to a buddies subaru headlights. Bet its the same concept.
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Yes it's similar in that doing the retrofit you bake the headlights and all that fun stuff, but in the case of the first gen sv's the lens itself is actually a textured plastic lens (refer to photo on page 1). So unlike the subarus which already have a clear lens, I'm gonna have to end up sanding it down to the point where it becomes clear. The retrofitting and all that isn't the problem, it's the sanding of the lens to hopefully make it clear.
If I'm not mistaken the parabolic ridges that you want to get rid of are on the inside. You will still need to separate the lens to sand those down. Also something to think about is the material the lens is made of. Depending on what type of plastic,and the process they used to manufacture it will dictate if you can even get it clear. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out. Good luck :eek:ccasion14:
 

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I installed the bkmoto kit for the 2nd Gen in my 02s and as far as better lighting for night riding. Its awesome. But I wouldn't suggest doing halos or anything, because of the texture of the lenses. You won't be able to see the halos clearly.
As far as polishing the lens. Don't try. You will ruin the plastic. I work in plastic manufacturing. During the formation of the raw material (plastic pellets) they add hardening and sealing agents into the mix.
When they melt that and form the plastic sheets that eventually get molded into the lenses.
The protective layers are microns think.
You will be able to grind off the ridges, and polish the lenses.
But it will haze on the inside in a few months (notice car headlights that are hazy)
There are headlight polishing kits you can buy that come.with a sealer.
But in all honesty. They suck.
If I were to do it again I would grab a second Gen headlight nacelles and see if I could get it kinda fit in the first Gen fairing.

Or I would have gotten some water proof hids and just cut the lenses off.
But check with whoever does your inspections. Because most states require a DOT # to be legal.
 

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I installed the bkmoto kit for the 2nd Gen in my 02s and as far as better lighting for night riding. Its awesome. But I wouldn't suggest doing halos or anything, because of the texture of the lenses. You won't be able to see the halos clearly.
As far as polishing the lens. Don't try. You will ruin the plastic. I work in plastic manufacturing. During the formation of the raw material (plastic pellets) they add hardening and sealing agents into the mix.
When they melt that and form the plastic sheets that eventually get molded into the lenses.
The protective layers are microns think.
You will be able to grind off the ridges, and polish the lenses.
But it will haze on the inside in a few months (notice car headlights that are hazy)
There are headlight polishing kits you can buy that come.with a sealer.
But in all honesty. They suck.
If I were to do it again I would grab a second Gen headlight nacelles and see if I could get it kinda fit in the first Gen fairing.

Or I would have gotten some water proof hids and just cut the lenses off.
But check with whoever does your inspections. Because most states require a DOT # to be legal.
Damn... I was hoping sanding them with some elbow grease would do the trick. I love HIDs becaues I ride alot at night.. I'm probably better off upgrading to a second gen lol. Would you happen to have any photos of how the lights look on your sv? Also maybe a photo with the lights facing a wall or garage door; I'm wondering how the textured lens effects the way the lights look. And is it 35 watt or 55 watt?
 

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Ummm pics? I'll have set up a photo bucket account first. But I went with the 35 because the 55 are kinda blue.
They have the same spread as the stockers (OK maybe a little farther) but man they are brighter.
If you do it I would suggest painting the reflectors black. I didn't and it makes it a little scattered.
And when I say a little I mean little.
 

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Ummm pics? I'll have set up a photo bucket account first. But I went with the 35 because the 55 are kinda blue.
They have the same spread as the stockers (OK maybe a little farther) but man they are brighter.
If you do it I would suggest painting the reflectors black. I didn't and it makes it a little scattered.
And when I say a little I mean little.
Photobucket not required! http://minus.com/ allows anonymous uploading but does delete the pictures after 30 days I believe. I am also really interested to see how the lights look in use.
 

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Ummm pics? I'll have set up a photo bucket account first. But I went with the 35 because the 55 are kinda blue.
They have the same spread as the stockers (OK maybe a little farther) but man they are brighter.
If you do it I would suggest painting the reflectors black. I didn't and it makes it a little scattered.
And when I say a little I mean little.
If did install them I'd definetly remove the reflectors because that's what the projectors are for. As far as 35 vs 55 watt, I installed both on multiple cars and the 55 watt ballasts tend to wash out the color of the bulbs, so you'd just choose a higher color temperature than you would if ordering the 35 watt. If i'd do it I'd go 55 watt, go big or go home :thumbsup:

I'm just wondering how the textured plastic lens would affect how the HID+Projector lights look (with reflecters painted over).
 
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