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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Here is a summary of the different models of USD Radial forks used on the various Suzuki models.
Hopefully, this will concentrate all the dimensional information on the most popular SV/GSXR fork conversion possible configurations.

Let's start with the matrices for the dimensions of the various fork models:

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Acknowledgments to Sam over at TL zone for initiating the primary chart creation and to all those who provided the data for it.

This excellent illustration courtesy of jeff721 will help indicate to what the measurements in the chart refer:

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Of course, there are the non-radial USDs used on the 01-03 750 and 01-02 1000 but the Radial versions seem to be the most popular, so that is the focus of this post.

So - looking at the primary area of interest for GSXR Radial Forks:

2003/04 1000
Gold/black inner tubes; gold calipers
300mm rotors.
850 springs
32mm offset; 54mm lower clamp
Right offset ignition top clamp, 28mm bore

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2005/06 1000
Bronze/black inners; black calipers
310mm rotors
950 springs
30mm offset, 54mm lower clamp
Center ignition top clamp, 28mm bore

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2004/05 600/750 (same)
gold/chrome legs, gold calipers
300mm rotors
850 springs
30mm offset, 54mm lower clamp
Right offset ignition top clamp, 25mm bore

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2006+ 600
gold/ chrome leg, black calipers
310mm rotors
900 springs
30mm offset, 53mm lower clamp
Left offset ignition top clamp, 28mm bore

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2006+ 750
black/ bronze leg
310mm rotors
1000 springs
30mm offset, 53mm lower clamp
Left offset ignition top clamp, 28mm bore

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Calipers:

03/04 1000 and 04/05 600/750 (fit 300mm rotors std)

* The 03 1000 calipers are 4 pads per caliper - look the same as the two-pad variant
No interchangeable re pads however

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All other GSXR models

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Yamaha Monoblock (R6)

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Caliper/Rotor Matrix:

Calipers can be utilized from all the models above, by using spacers* per this matrix.
* Note that although for some sizes it says N/A, this means the combo would be too tall;
however, you could actually machine the caliper (or fork leg stanchion) as opposed to a spacer

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Triple Clamps:

You can mix & match a bit here:
The ideal top clamp I believe would be the 04/05 600/750 clamp
This has ignition offset to the right (same as SV and more conducive to the Vee shape of the front of the speedo for naked)
It has a 30mm offset and a 25mm bore.
Direct fit on 04/05 l600/750 lower triple clamp/forks
To fit on 06+ 600/750 forks/lower triple, bore stem hole to 28mm
To fit on 05/06 1000 bottom triple, bore stem to 28mm

If you have no access to machining, then the 05-06 1000 top clamp will fit directly on the 06+ 600/750 steering stem. This clamp has ignition 'straight ahead. The steering lock WILL lock, albeit with the wheel straight ahead, as opposed to the conventional full left position.

06+ 600/750 top clamps obviously 'fit' their own forks/bottom triple, however, the ignition is offset to the left; it requires some machining of the ignition module to avoid interference with the frame on the left side and the steering lock will not function without drilling frame. This makes it a less ideal choice.

Bottom clamp:
03/04 1000 has 32mm offset, 54mm bottom fork dia, and 25mm stem
05/06 1000 has 30mm offset 54mm bottom fork dia and 28mm stem
04/05 600/750 has 30mm offset, 54mm bottom fork dia, and 25mm stem
06+ 600/750 has a 30mm offset, 53mm bottom fork dia, and 28mm stem

Note that 06+600/750 forks are 53mm at the bottom clamp diameter - the others above are 54mm; so consider that as you wish to mix/match bottom triples & forks.

Axles:

The wheels are comparable fitment for all 01+ GSXR;
However, the axles change with the fork generations;

For the first group of forks per the caliper table above (03-04 1000 or 04-05 600/750)
uses an axle & collar nut (same as SV1K actually)
Note that there is no additional wheel/axle spacer required.

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For the second group of forks (05+ 1000 or 06+ 600/750)
the axle has a threaded bolt, rather than a collar nut, with a separate spacer that goes between the wheel & right fork leg.

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Steering Bearings:

All GSXR forks in the range above have 30/55/17 top & bottom bearings.
All Gen 2 SV650 and SV1K are the same sizes also
Gen 1 SV650 is the same bottom bearing but requires a special top bearing from TWF Racing.

Wheels:

All GSXR wheels after SRAD will fit any GSXR forks described above
The rotors change sizes (and fitment) however

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Mix n Match Capability for Wheels/Rotors:

01-04 1000 and 01-05 600/750 and SV1K all are the same wheel dimensionally;
Will take 300mm rotors from 03-04 1000, 04-05 600/750;
Will take 310mm rotors from SV1K;
Will take 320mm rotors from any 96-03 600/750 or 01-02 1000 or TL, or Hayabusa

05-08 1000 and 06-07 600/750 take 310mm rotors only, from these years of the wheel only.

09+ 1000 and 08+ 600/750 take 310mm rotors only - note that these rotors are NOT compatible with the group immediately above & vice versa.
 
#271 ·
So I finally got around to mounting my 07 GSXR 750 Front end on my gen 1 650. I'm using a 04 GSXR 1000 upper triple clamp so I can retain usage of my steering lock. Everything come together great except that the ignition switch/steering lock assembly did not have enough clearance with the steering head when turning toward the right. So i began to shave off some material on the steering head. Then the though that maybe the lower triple may be bent causing this clearance issue.

If the lower triple tree clap is bent, it must be only slightly. the forks went in without trouble. And it doesn't look tweaked with the naked eye. Has anyone had to do this to a gen 1 while retaining the stock steering lock?

Thanks in advance.
 
#284 ·
Hey Guys
I'm in the middle of a fork swap, an 'almost' complete set of K4 GSXR1000 forks on to a 2008 SV650s.

I ordered a set of steering bearings, which were bot identical. However the steering stem has a 28mm diameter at the bottom, and 25mm at the top. It doesn't seem right that the upper part of the stem wont fit the upper bearing.

Is this right, or should I seek out a 25mm ID bearing?

Cheers

Greg
 
#286 ·
OK, so that means that I don't have K4 1000 steering stem / forks? As the taper starts very low - see pic here:




And see here the gap between the stem and what would be the top bearing (yes Ive shown it upside down).

The measurements Ive checked, 28mm tapering to 25mm.

Thanks




Any idea what I've got then? As I was told they were 2004 GSXR1000 forks.
 
#288 · (Edited)
I don't know about rest of it, but that is not a GSXR steering stem.
The top clamp would have to not be a GSXR clamp either I would suspect.

Presumably person you bought these off did a hybrid set-up for another custom set-up.

Sounds like a Kawasaki stem

Upper: 25 x 47 x 15
Lower: 28 x 52 x 16.5
Kawasaki KL250D2-D8 (85-91), KLR250 (-9Cool
Kawasaki ZX400K1/K2/K3
Kawasaki EN450A1-A7 (85-91), EN450N
Kawasaki EN500A1-A6 (90-96), EN500C1/C2 Vulcan Ltd (96-97)
Kawasaki GPZ550H1
Kawasaki KZ550F1/F2/M1 (83-84), KZ550H1/H2 (82-83)
Kawasaki Z550G6, Z550M1 Ltd (83)
Kawasaki ZR550B1-B5 (90-94)
Kawasaki ZX550A1/A2 (84-85)
Kawasaki GPX600R
Kawasaki KL600A1/B1/B3 (84-86)
Kawasaki ZX600 Ninja (85-97)
Kawasaki KLR650/B2 Tengai (89)
Kawasaki KL650A1-A11/B2/ KLR (87-97)
Kawasaki KZ700A1 (84)
Kawasaki ZN700A1/A2 (84-85)
Kawasaki GP750R, GPZ750R/R1
Kawasaki KZ750F1, KZ750L3 (83)
Kawasaki KZ750N1/N2 (82-83), KZ750R1 (82)
Kawasaki VN750A2 (86)
Kawasaki ZR750C1-C4 (91-94), ZR750 Zephyr
Kawasaki ZX750A1-A3/E1/E2/ F1-F4/H1/H2
Kawasaki GPZ900R
Kawasaki ZL900A1/A2 (85-86)
Kawasaki ZX900A1-A3 (84-86)
Kawasaki KZ1000J1-J3/K1/K2/ M1/M2 (81-82), KZ1000P1-P17 (82-9Cool, KZ1000R1/R2 (82-83)
Kawasaki Z1000K1 LTD (82)
Kawasaki ZG1000A1-A9 (86-94)
Kawasaki ZL1000A1 (87)
Kawasaki ZX1000A1/A2 (86-87), ZX1000B1-B3 (88-90)
Kawasaki GPZ1100A/S, B/S (81-82)
Kawasaki KZ1100A1-A3 (81-83), KZ1100B1/B2 (81-82), KZ1100D1/D2 (82-83), KZ1100L1 (83)
Kawasaki Z1100J/J2/Z
Kawasaki ZN1100B1/B2 (84-85)
Kawasaki ZR1100A1/A2 (92-93)
Kawasaki ZX1100A1-A2 (83-84)
Kawasaki VN15SE
Kawasaki VN1500A1-A9 (87-95)
Kawasaki VN1500B1-B5 (87-91)
Kawasaki VN1500A10/A11/C3/C4/D1/D2 (96-97)

As tovar says, be good to see all the pieces.
I think he's looking to see if there is a sleeve fitted with the stem in the bottom triple.
 
#292 ·
If I understand the wheel matrix from the first post correclty, I should be able to mount a SV1k wheel to a 06-09 GSXR 600 fork/axle using the GSXR axle spacer, right?

Being that the SV1k and 06-09 GSXR 600 use a 310mm rotor, there should be no issues there either...

Are my assumptions correct?
 
#297 ·
 
#298 ·
The actual Suzuki part # is 54751-41G00, but yes that is the BB item part number

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2006-2009-G...-OEM-/380385719430?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item5890c17486

http://www.ebay.com/itm/07-08-Suzuk...Axle-/140642082741?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item20beebdfb5

All-balls bearings are what I typically use.
Removing the bottom bearing off the stem is the biggest part of the job - easiest if you have access to press and press the stem through the bearing and bottom triple together.
 
#302 ·
My bad, front fender. After researching a cabillion threads, its does not.

After looking at every option possible, I am going with the Delkevic GSXR front fender, its cheap for $58 shipped and its brand new and unpainted, which I will paint anyway to match my bike. All the other ones on Ebay are $30 but are cracked or super scratched, so I would rather not take the risk and buy it right the first time.
 
#303 ·
need info. I've got an '08 gsxr 1000 front end I'm about to put on my sv. The front end I bought has the brake calipers and brake lines, but does not have the master cylinder or lever assembly.

So my question is.... as I look for a master cylinder and lever assembly, what models and years will be compatible with my front end? Thx.
 
#307 ·
Thanks again all, my 2009 GSXR 600 swap was completed this weekend. Only issues were a seized bar end weight (had to cut clip on) and the ignition offset to the left had me unclip the ignition and move the wire so I can install it on the left side. Forgot to trim the ignition, so had to take it off again and trim it down.

The SV1000 steering damper looked like it wouldnt fit due to a little piece of the bottom triple in the way (brake hole bracket screws into it), so I might have to buy nuculars fork mount for the damper.
 
#308 ·
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The SV1000 steering damper looked like it wouldnt fit due to a little piece of the bottom triple in the way (brake hole bracket screws into it), so I might have to buy nuculars fork mount for the damper.
Several ways to do it. I opted to do it this way since I was going naked and wanted to keep the clutter down.

http://www.svrider.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2342165&highlight=#post2342165

Since then, I've moved the headlight in and down and found it would contact the damper. An added washer at each of the damper connection points provided clearance.