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GSXR Fork Information / Permutations

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Here is a summary of the different models of USD Radial forks used on the various Suzuki models.
Hopefully, this will concentrate all the dimensional information on the most popular SV/GSXR fork conversion possible configurations.

Let's start with the matrices for the dimensions of the various fork models:

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Acknowledgments to Sam over at TL zone for initiating the primary chart creation and to all those who provided the data for it.

This excellent illustration courtesy of jeff721 will help indicate to what the measurements in the chart refer:

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Of course, there are the non-radial USDs used on the 01-03 750 and 01-02 1000 but the Radial versions seem to be the most popular, so that is the focus of this post.

So - looking at the primary area of interest for GSXR Radial Forks:

2003/04 1000
Gold/black inner tubes; gold calipers
300mm rotors.
850 springs
32mm offset; 54mm lower clamp
Right offset ignition top clamp, 28mm bore

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2005/06 1000
Bronze/black inners; black calipers
310mm rotors
950 springs
30mm offset, 54mm lower clamp
Center ignition top clamp, 28mm bore

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2004/05 600/750 (same)
gold/chrome legs, gold calipers
300mm rotors
850 springs
30mm offset, 54mm lower clamp
Right offset ignition top clamp, 25mm bore

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2006+ 600
gold/ chrome leg, black calipers
310mm rotors
900 springs
30mm offset, 53mm lower clamp
Left offset ignition top clamp, 28mm bore

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2006+ 750
black/ bronze leg
310mm rotors
1000 springs
30mm offset, 53mm lower clamp
Left offset ignition top clamp, 28mm bore

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Calipers:

03/04 1000 and 04/05 600/750 (fit 300mm rotors std)

* The 03 1000 calipers are 4 pads per caliper - look the same as the two-pad variant
No interchangeable re pads however

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All other GSXR models

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Yamaha Monoblock (R6)

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Caliper/Rotor Matrix:

Calipers can be utilized from all the models above, by using spacers* per this matrix.
* Note that although for some sizes it says N/A, this means the combo would be too tall;
however, you could actually machine the caliper (or fork leg stanchion) as opposed to a spacer

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Triple Clamps:

You can mix & match a bit here:
The ideal top clamp I believe would be the 04/05 600/750 clamp
This has ignition offset to the right (same as SV and more conducive to the Vee shape of the front of the speedo for naked)
It has a 30mm offset and a 25mm bore.
Direct fit on 04/05 l600/750 lower triple clamp/forks
To fit on 06+ 600/750 forks/lower triple, bore stem hole to 28mm
To fit on 05/06 1000 bottom triple, bore stem to 28mm

If you have no access to machining, then the 05-06 1000 top clamp will fit directly on the 06+ 600/750 steering stem. This clamp has ignition 'straight ahead. The steering lock WILL lock, albeit with the wheel straight ahead, as opposed to the conventional full left position.

06+ 600/750 top clamps obviously 'fit' their own forks/bottom triple, however, the ignition is offset to the left; it requires some machining of the ignition module to avoid interference with the frame on the left side and the steering lock will not function without drilling frame. This makes it a less ideal choice.

Bottom clamp:
03/04 1000 has 32mm offset, 54mm bottom fork dia, and 25mm stem
05/06 1000 has 30mm offset 54mm bottom fork dia and 28mm stem
04/05 600/750 has 30mm offset, 54mm bottom fork dia, and 25mm stem
06+ 600/750 has a 30mm offset, 53mm bottom fork dia, and 28mm stem

Note that 06+600/750 forks are 53mm at the bottom clamp diameter - the others above are 54mm; so consider that as you wish to mix/match bottom triples & forks.

Axles:

The wheels are comparable fitment for all 01+ GSXR;
However, the axles change with the fork generations;

For the first group of forks per the caliper table above (03-04 1000 or 04-05 600/750)
uses an axle & collar nut (same as SV1K actually)
Note that there is no additional wheel/axle spacer required.

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For the second group of forks (05+ 1000 or 06+ 600/750)
the axle has a threaded bolt, rather than a collar nut, with a separate spacer that goes between the wheel & right fork leg.

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Steering Bearings:

All GSXR forks in the range above have 30/55/17 top & bottom bearings.
All Gen 2 SV650 and SV1K are the same sizes also
Gen 1 SV650 is the same bottom bearing but requires a special top bearing from TWF Racing.

Wheels:

All GSXR wheels after SRAD will fit any GSXR forks described above
The rotors change sizes (and fitment) however

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Mix n Match Capability for Wheels/Rotors:

01-04 1000 and 01-05 600/750 and SV1K all are the same wheel dimensionally;
Will take 300mm rotors from 03-04 1000, 04-05 600/750;
Will take 310mm rotors from SV1K;
Will take 320mm rotors from any 96-03 600/750 or 01-02 1000 or TL, or Hayabusa

05-08 1000 and 06-07 600/750 take 310mm rotors only, from these years of the wheel only.

09+ 1000 and 08+ 600/750 take 310mm rotors only - note that these rotors are NOT compatible with the group immediately above & vice versa.
 
#673 ·
I have a 2009 GSXR 750 front end I'm putting on my 1st Gen SV650 and I'm trying to figure out if I'm missing a part. The parts fiche for the GSXR shows a shield, upper dust (part #11 on fiche) and a stem seal, upper dust (part #10 on fiche). I have the stem seal (#10), but I'm missing the sheid, upper dust (#11). Do I need that with Zoran's tapered replacement bearing?

http://www.suzukipartshouse.com/oemparts/a/suz/506b6182f8700235b8768985/steering-stem
 
#679 ·
RE: Anyone have tips for mounting the SV ignition to an 08 GSXR 1000 triple?

Rerouting the ignition cable to the clutch side of the triple gives the cable slack needed. I milled the back of the ignition switch to line up with the security bolt holes and the clearence from the frame when the triple turns L/R. I don't see any way to align the steering lock with the original hole in the headstock and I'm not comfortable enlarging the hole in the headstock.
 
#681 ·
Yes. 11 to current 600/750 use a 22mm axle shaft with 28mm in the left leg.
Earlier models use the 25mm shaft with left side being 32mm. And the 11+ 1000 is bigger axle than 600. My 11 front wheel and axle are currently in the shop, possibly getting sleeves made to fit the 07 forks I have. :rock:
 
#686 ·
My forks just got lost in the mail after getting rebuilt by my friend, so now I have a set of 04 600 triples and an 04 600 front wheel and rotors, with 04 600 black calipers and rotors. I have to find a new set of forks. I will try to buy as few extra parts as possible.

I would love to get 2006-10 gsxr 750 forks, using .5mm spacers to fit them in my current lower triples, which are 1mm wider than these forks. Everything else up top is the same and it all looks good until you get down to the wheel and brakes. The rotors I have are 300's, these forks will be needing 310 rotors unless I machine down the caliper mounts 5 mm. Seems like enough trouble to keep those surfaces flat during the machining that I would have to pay someone to do it, and for that money I might as well add a little and get some new rotors, unless there is any easy way to do it properly.

Another issue is the bore. My current wheel is has a 69mm bore, since it is an 04 gsxr 600 (where is that measured btw?). The 06-07 750's have axles meant for a bore of 100, the 08-10 750's are 102mm bore. So could I just use my current axle (04 600, 69mm) and get/make spacers?
 
#687 ·
04 600 calipers are gold not black.

Pick up some R6 calipers and have them milled is my suggestion... or you can mill the stock calipers.

Use an axle that matches the forks, all the wheels fit the same. I run 07 750 forks with an SV1000 front wheel (same wheel as yours) with 07 750 axle.
 
#689 ·
Didn't see this info posted anywhere but through some work with Dave Moss this weekend at Precision Trackdays it was apparent that the 06 GSXR-1000 forks are "more" dampened when compared to the same year 600/750 forks.

When Zoran/TWF set them up for me we decided on .90 springs b/c I had a set of traxxion springs in that rate to use. I'm 185 lbs and I have the bike set up about as light as I could get without dropping a ton of $$ into it.

With a complete day of working on it there was no way to get it a good set up. I essentially had to set it up with zero rebound dampening or else the fork would pack down under bumps and breaking.

On Sunday I put in the stock .95 springs and 5wt Maxxima oil. OAHWOW! what a difference that made. In a half a day of tuning on Sunday I had them set and they felt like my old 06-GSXR-750 forks. Smooth and working together with the rear.

Instead of blowing through the stroke and bouncing through the corner and over bumps we were able to use get it set with the right comp. & rebound. The bike settled into the corner and rode much better.

Conclusion: if you have the 06 GSXR-1000 forks either go up a spring rate if needed or revalve them with a lighter dampening setup.