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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Here is a summary of the different models of USD Radial forks used on the various Suzuki models.
Hopefully, this will concentrate all the dimensional information on the most popular SV/GSXR fork conversion possible configurations.

Let's start with the matrices for the dimensions of the various fork models:

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Acknowledgments to Sam over at TL zone for initiating the primary chart creation and to all those who provided the data for it.

This excellent illustration courtesy of jeff721 will help indicate to what the measurements in the chart refer:

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Of course, there are the non-radial USDs used on the 01-03 750 and 01-02 1000 but the Radial versions seem to be the most popular, so that is the focus of this post.

So - looking at the primary area of interest for GSXR Radial Forks:

2003/04 1000
Gold/black inner tubes; gold calipers
300mm rotors.
850 springs
32mm offset; 54mm lower clamp
Right offset ignition top clamp, 28mm bore

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2005/06 1000
Bronze/black inners; black calipers
310mm rotors
950 springs
30mm offset, 54mm lower clamp
Center ignition top clamp, 28mm bore

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2004/05 600/750 (same)
gold/chrome legs, gold calipers
300mm rotors
850 springs
30mm offset, 54mm lower clamp
Right offset ignition top clamp, 25mm bore

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2006+ 600
gold/ chrome leg, black calipers
310mm rotors
900 springs
30mm offset, 53mm lower clamp
Left offset ignition top clamp, 28mm bore

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2006+ 750
black/ bronze leg
310mm rotors
1000 springs
30mm offset, 53mm lower clamp
Left offset ignition top clamp, 28mm bore

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Calipers:

03/04 1000 and 04/05 600/750 (fit 300mm rotors std)

* The 03 1000 calipers are 4 pads per caliper - look the same as the two-pad variant
No interchangeable re pads however

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All other GSXR models

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Yamaha Monoblock (R6)

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Caliper/Rotor Matrix:

Calipers can be utilized from all the models above, by using spacers* per this matrix.
* Note that although for some sizes it says N/A, this means the combo would be too tall;
however, you could actually machine the caliper (or fork leg stanchion) as opposed to a spacer

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Triple Clamps:

You can mix & match a bit here:
The ideal top clamp I believe would be the 04/05 600/750 clamp
This has ignition offset to the right (same as SV and more conducive to the Vee shape of the front of the speedo for naked)
It has a 30mm offset and a 25mm bore.
Direct fit on 04/05 l600/750 lower triple clamp/forks
To fit on 06+ 600/750 forks/lower triple, bore stem hole to 28mm
To fit on 05/06 1000 bottom triple, bore stem to 28mm

If you have no access to machining, then the 05-06 1000 top clamp will fit directly on the 06+ 600/750 steering stem. This clamp has ignition 'straight ahead. The steering lock WILL lock, albeit with the wheel straight ahead, as opposed to the conventional full left position.

06+ 600/750 top clamps obviously 'fit' their own forks/bottom triple, however, the ignition is offset to the left; it requires some machining of the ignition module to avoid interference with the frame on the left side and the steering lock will not function without drilling frame. This makes it a less ideal choice.

Bottom clamp:
03/04 1000 has 32mm offset, 54mm bottom fork dia, and 25mm stem
05/06 1000 has 30mm offset 54mm bottom fork dia and 28mm stem
04/05 600/750 has 30mm offset, 54mm bottom fork dia, and 25mm stem
06+ 600/750 has a 30mm offset, 53mm bottom fork dia, and 28mm stem

Note that 06+600/750 forks are 53mm at the bottom clamp diameter - the others above are 54mm; so consider that as you wish to mix/match bottom triples & forks.

Axles:

The wheels are comparable fitment for all 01+ GSXR;
However, the axles change with the fork generations;

For the first group of forks per the caliper table above (03-04 1000 or 04-05 600/750)
uses an axle & collar nut (same as SV1K actually)
Note that there is no additional wheel/axle spacer required.

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For the second group of forks (05+ 1000 or 06+ 600/750)
the axle has a threaded bolt, rather than a collar nut, with a separate spacer that goes between the wheel & right fork leg.

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Steering Bearings:

All GSXR forks in the range above have 30/55/17 top & bottom bearings.
All Gen 2 SV650 and SV1K are the same sizes also
Gen 1 SV650 is the same bottom bearing but requires a special top bearing from TWF Racing.

Wheels:

All GSXR wheels after SRAD will fit any GSXR forks described above
The rotors change sizes (and fitment) however

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Mix n Match Capability for Wheels/Rotors:

01-04 1000 and 01-05 600/750 and SV1K all are the same wheel dimensionally;
Will take 300mm rotors from 03-04 1000, 04-05 600/750;
Will take 310mm rotors from SV1K;
Will take 320mm rotors from any 96-03 600/750 or 01-02 1000 or TL, or Hayabusa

05-08 1000 and 06-07 600/750 take 310mm rotors only, from these years of the wheel only.

09+ 1000 and 08+ 600/750 take 310mm rotors only - note that these rotors are NOT compatible with the group immediately above & vice versa.
 
#436 ·
I can get a pretty good deal on a 2008 GSXR 600/750 front end with everything included except the wheel/rotor. I have a Gen1 and want to make sure this will work with the TWF bearing (minus the ignition since I will mount this on the side of my frame like a harley). Also - I know I'll have to make a bracket for the gauges.

I was a little confused on the wheel/rotor compatibility. Obviously my first choice will be a 2008 600 wheel/rotor combo but if that's hard to find, what are my options?
 
#437 ·
If you have a naked model then you will also need to rig up the headlight somehow.

The steering stem bearing is the same for all modern GSX-R's (96+). Obviously, you will lose your steering lock. The steering stops are different too. I'm not sure what most 1st gen guys do about that. I believe D'Ecosse has a solution, but I don't know if he is still making those. I'm sure he will chime in soon enough, or you can go to the TWF forum.

You need a "newer" (2000+ for the GSX-R750, 2001+ for the GSX-R600, and any GSX-R1000) front wheel with at least 310mm rotors. If you go with 320mm rotors then you will need a spacer. This is assuming you are using the '08 calipers. You will also need the '08 style front axle.

I think that covers everything.
 
#438 ·
Thanks Bossman.

Yeah I know I'll need the TWF bearing and with that particular upper triple, the ignition is on the wrong side so I'll lose the lock.

The brake calipers are included which is great, but I don't want to buy a wheel from somebody and then find out it won't work for some stupid reason. I'm assuming the spacer you mentioned would be for the calipers if I use a 320mm rotor?

Maybe I need to read through the thread again...maybe I overlooked something.

If everything works out, I should have a complete front end from clip ons, controls to the tire for around $600. Is that what I should expect to pay or should it be less?
 
#443 ·
Hey all, my friend has a front wheel in his garage left by the previous owners of the house. He's pretty sure it's an earlier GSXR rim because of the 320mm rotors. Looking at the matrix it could be SRAD/TL/00-03 750', etc.

How can I tell which model it's off of? I checked but there is no part number I can see on the outer rim.
Is there something I can check or measure to generally see what type of rim this is?
 
#446 ·
Here's a pic and there are numbers where the spoke meets the outer rim.

Wadda you think?
The no. I was talking about are somewhere on the middle on the spoke, between outer rim and hub behind the outer rotor.
The 1. gen busa,TL models and 600/750 srad models share the same rim so they might have the same part no. and that what it looks like what you got
Why do you need to know from which model it is?
 
#448 ·
I am pretty sure that Suzuki changed the wheel design on the 01+ 600 and the 00+ 750 models.
While they used the same 320mm rotors till they switched to radial,
they changed the spoke design from round like the SV and the wheel you got to spokes with edges.
 
#449 ·
here's my addition:if you use R6 calipers with SRAD 750 triples and axle and SRAD/TL/BUSA 1st gen wheel and GSXR60/750 K4/k5 forks,you need two 1.75mm spacers between wheel and rotors for perfect alignment.
Nice combo,keeps steering stops and lock.
Just file by 2mm the inside of the steering stops in order for the lock pin to work.

Don't be afraid of the 1.75mm measurement,it is perfect for the following combo:
a)GSXR600/750 K4/k5 forks
b)SRAD 750 triples
c)SRAD 750 axle
d)R6 calipers with Zoran's spacers.
e)SRAD/TL,TLR,HAYABUSA 99-07 front wheel
 
#452 · (Edited)
here's my addition:if you use R6 calipers with SRAD 750 triples and axle and SRAD/TL/BUSA 1st gen wheel and GSXR60/750 K4/k5 forks,you need two 1.75mm spacers between wheel and rotors for perfect alignment.
Nice combo,keeps steering stops and lock.
Just file by 2mm the inside of the steering stops in order for the lock pin to work.

Don't be afraid of the 1.75mm measurement,it is perfect for the following combo:
a)GSXR600/750 K4/k5 forks
b)SRAD 750 triples
c)SRAD 750 axle
d)R6 calipers with Zoran's spacers. <--- k5 600 calipers.
e)SRAD/TL,TLR,HAYABUSA 99-07 front wheel
This is almost exactly my swap lol.
But I believe my SRAD rotors are 4.5mm, .05 thinner than the 750's at 5.0, so do I need 2mm spacers?
 
#454 ·
Alright guys, I feel stupid asking this as it is seemingly backwards as far as most GSXR swaps are concerned. I have an 06 S model and want to do a GSXR swap and run 7/8" bars instead of clip ons. Crazy right. Bad back says no more low bars for this guy.

Anyway, my question is, could a person simply drill whatever model GSXR triple for risers or would a custom top triple need to be made?

I am at the beginning of researching what parts I will be using for this swap, so I have not decided on which year fork, wheel and brake setup I will be running. Thanks all, this is the thread I've been needing to wrap my head around this project.
 
#455 ·
People do both, I would guess most drill the GSXR triple because they often get them with their GSXR front end. If you go this route use a good sharp drill and use washers on the backside. I would even use a washer on the top to spread to load, but that's just me.

I have personally sold many custom triple clamps, that takes care of any steering lock compatibly issues your chosen front end may have and the mounting of the gauges.

Like everything in life, it's down to what you want to spend versus reward.
 
#456 ·
I drilled my 06/07 600/750 top triple. Crashed hard enough to bend Renthal Fatbars. Triple seems to be fine.
 
#459 ·
Getting ready to do my own swap finally. Been drooling for years about it, but decided it's time. Just to make sure of some things, cause im going to do a 180 rear swap at the same time. I plan to use 06-07 600 front end, and i want to use the newer 08+ wheels for the look. Since they are both 310mm rotors, will this work? Or is there more to it than I am seeing?

edit: Sorry, I searched and found the answer.
 
#460 ·
06/07 vs 08+ use different front rotor bolt patterns. you can use complete 08+ wheel assembly (wheel/rotors) in 06/07 front end though.
 
#467 ·
OK, I want to put R1 calipers on my 04GSXR600 forks with 300mm rotors. I have seen a chart that says I should remove 7mm from the calipers. There are inserts in the calipers that hold them in place on the stock R1 forks. These inserts poke above the flat surface of the calipers. Is the height of these inserts included in the 7mm I need to remove or do i need to remove 7mm from the mating surface of the R1 caliepers!

Thanks!

Aaron
 
#470 ·
Hi. I'm in a middle of a swap. I Have a question.
I have a set of 2011 gsxr750 forks and a front axle from a 06-07 750 that measure 25mm small side and 32mm on the large side.
The hole on the fork measure at 22mm on the small side and 28mm on the big hole.

Which axle should I get to work with my srad wheel?
 
#471 ·
In general you need axle to go with forks. I wasn't aware that the newer forks went to a smaller axle but I guess they did. I'd go with axle to match forks.

As far as I know, SRAD wheel is wider than newer wheel. Can't guarantee that it fits.