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I heard this on the radio this morning, apparently the owner gave the chimp a Xanax pill earlier in the day and he started acting wierd...maybe it had an opposite effect on him? Xanax never made me want to rip anyones face off, but then again I'm no chimp, chump maybe but no chimp. I guess the lady was like 70 yrs old and 100 pounds, they said he ripped her face apart and tore her up pretty good. Those chimps are ridiculously strong and unfortunately this is the risk you take by harboring a wild animal in a domestic environment.
 

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That's a shame, for both the person seriously injured and the chimp. But I agree this is why animals like this should not be kept as pets. It's too easy to forget they are animals, not human.
 

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I had an employee once that volunteered with the chimp facility at OSU. He always said that once a chimp hit 3 years old, It was an absolute nightmare. A male will grow to be stronger than almost any human. Every chimp you see in commercials is a young one. When they're young, you can teach them and control them. Not so much when they grow up.
 

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How odd, humans have been known to do the same things. Why anyone want to keep one as a pet? :tard:

LAWLZ True. But at least with our human counterparts, we have this little thing called language.

Oh, and a sense of right and wrong that is generally the same. Key word is "generally".
 

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There was a special on Nature a few weeks back, about "unwanted" chimps. Many people know that chimps were used as the predacessors for humans for space flight. Their anatomy and physiology is very near to ours.

However, what I found out, is that once the Air Force is "done" with them, they were either sold to the circus/Hollywood, for an excellent life as an entertainer, where their teeth were ripped out, so that they weren't a "danger" to us humans, OR they were sold to a government funded testing facility, and subjected to topical chemical tests, injections with viruses/anti-viruses, exploratory surgery, you name it. That facility, located in the desert in New Mexico, has since been shut down and sold to a private owner, who uses donations and private monies to care for each and every one of the chimps.

There are currently only 2 facilities in North America that are "chimp sanctuaries". I believe one is in Florida, and the other is in Canada. Everyday people, NOT MOVIE STARS OR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, have taken it upon themselves to jump through the red tape, spend every hard earned dollar, and fight with the goverment and narrow-minded neighbors, just so that these creatures can live out the rest of their lives in peace, free from pain and psychological abuse.

The Canadian facility finally opened, and is beginning to house chimps whenever the owner can afford to transfer them from facilities like the the one in New Mexico, or discarded chimps from the circus. Their biggest hurdle was getting the surrounding community to accept the fact that all the chimps are HIV positive. Chimps do not develop AIDS. We still do not know why.

These "selfish people" do not do this for fame, a government grant, notoriety, or a chance in the spotlight. They do it because these animals have no other place to go, and rather than let them die in a concrete and steel cell, alone in the desert, they'd like to offer them one last glimmer of freedom and peace, and are willing to accept any danger that comes along with that.

I offered up this story to inform people of the event, nothing more. Unfortunately, within only a few posts, once again, it's turned into just what I thought it would, like every other thread on this site. I'll leave it up for the mods to decide what to do with this thread, if it gets out of hand, since I have no faith left in this communities ability to control itself.

Rant over.
 

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Well, Mike, a harsh look at a harsh world is what I offer.

Those animals that are being used for medical testing are serving humanity. Those that are used to test systems (like the flight systems you mentioned) are being used to serve humanity.

Like any other animal, we use them to our advantage. Yeah, I support it. I'd rather test a painful cure or stress on an animal than a sentient human.

And, like any other animal, I think they should be euthanized when their "useful" life has passed.

I read your original post as a slam on the woman who originally kept the chimp. My apologies.

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I think the woman who "housed" this chimp should face the charges that would be levied against a human who attacked a person in the manner that the beast did.

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I think the woman who "housed" this chimp should face the charges that would be levied against a human who attacked a person in the manner that the beast did.

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So when used for testing, they are not equal. But when they commit a crime, they are judged as such?

I do not understand.
 

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So when used for testing, they are not equal. But when they commit a crime, they are judged as such?

I do not understand.
The pet "owner" should face charges if the victim (or victim's family if the victim is unable) chooses to press them. The animal cannot be charged for instinctual response.

I'm with Brad on this one too. Modern medicine, space and air travel are where they are today because of animal testing.
 

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So when used for testing, they are not equal. But when they commit a crime, they are judged as such?

I do not understand.

No, I'm not saying to judge the beast. I'm saying to judge the person who's responsible for the actions of that beast.

Just like when a dog mauls a kid or adult; the owner of said dog should face the charges a person wielding a weapon would face when they assault a person.


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Why charge them as a person with a weapon? Canines have one function--to tear flesh, much like a blade in a fight. The animal is using a weapon (of sorts), so the owner should be charged with aggravated assault; in this case, attempted murder.
 

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While I have infinitely more compassion for animals than say...a JBSwear does, I feel that housing wild, powerful animals in your home is not a great thing to do. I understand this woman had built a cage for the chimp inside her home, and I feel sorry that so many are tossed aside. But housing a chimp in your home doesnt seem the right thing to do.

I don't however view her as a "stupid, selfish b!tch". Its nice that she was attempting to help, but her choice of housing for the chimp was not appropriate.
 
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