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Much better sir, much better. I can now bend my knee all the way. Starting to get sensation back on my knee (bottom area has been numb). My knee still gives out of time to time and the cold makes it very sensitive. I had a huge amount of liquid in my knee, most of it has gone away now thanks to the knee brace I wore. I am getting an MRI done this week and also signed up for therapy. I can do a partial squat with no issues, slowly. Thanks for asking. Thanks for asking sir.
 

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So I ordered a radiator from China, fit perfectly. I need to paint it black or yellow. Only cost $240.

Test drove it tonight finally and there is a big problem with my bike. I will use a car example to explain what's going on.

Pretend you straighten out your steering wheel right? The tires will point straight and the car will go straight. The issue I am having right now, is that you have the steering wheel pointing straight yet the car veers to the left. I don't know if something is bent or what. What do you guys think?
 

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You should have been able to not only out-brake the car in front but easily maneuver the bike into the gap between the cars. This event should have been a non issue. Do yourself a favor and practice emergency braking, maybe even book yourself a trackday so you can understand what the bike's capable of. Your bike is extremely agile and that agility can used as a safety net at times like this.
 

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You should have been able to not only out-brake the car in front but easily maneuver the bike into the gap between the cars. This event should have been a non issue. Do yourself a favor and practice emergency braking, maybe even book yourself a trackday so you can understand what the bike's capable of. Your bike is extremely agile and that agility can used as a safety net at times like this.
Many here will agree and disagree. As I mentioned before, quite easy to make that assessment from watching a video. Until you are in that exact situation, you really don't know how you will react or what decisions you will make first.
 

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You should have been able to not only out-brake the car in front but easily maneuver the bike into the gap between the cars. This event should have been a non issue. Do yourself a favor and practice emergency braking, maybe even book yourself a trackday so you can understand what the bike's capable of. Your bike is extremely agile and that agility can used as a safety net at times like this.
true, except the out-braking part. cars and cruisers have better stopping distances than sportbikes because of the weight on the tires and no having stoppie problems.
 

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Many here will agree and disagree. As I mentioned before, quite easy to make that assessment from watching a video. Until you are in that exact situation, you really don't know how you will react or what decisions you will make first.
yep. and also an error in his physics understanding. but he is right about practice making muscle memory available in a panic...
 

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So I ordered a radiator from China, fit perfectly. I need to paint it black or yellow. Only cost $240.

Test drove it tonight finally and there is a big problem with my bike. I will use a car example to explain what's going on.

Pretend you straighten out your steering wheel right? The tires will point straight and the car will go straight. The issue I am having right now, is that you have the steering wheel pointing straight yet the car veers to the left. I don't know if something is bent or what. What do you guys think?
Does you bike have clip-ons or a full length bar? If its clip-ons, one may had spun a little on the fork tube.

Possible the forks twisted in the triple trees. If you have a front stand that picks the bike up from the steering stem, put the bike on stands (rear stand on 1st of course). Center the handle bars then measure the center of the front axle to the center of the swingarm pivot on both sides. It should be very close if not exact. If its out of whack, then loosen the lower triple tree pinch bolts where it clamps on the forks. It may just pop back into position or you may have to help a little. Then remeasure the axle to swingarm pivot. If its now equal, tighten up the pinch bolts with the correct torque and test it. This is just one way. There are other ways, but this is the one that has worked for me.

If that didn't work or even help, then you may have slightly bent fork(s) or triple (upper or lower or both).

Edit: Also make sure your rear wheel didn't get cocked a little.
 

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true, except the out-braking part. cars and cruisers have better stopping distances than sportbikes because of the weight on the tires and no having stoppie problems.
yep. and also an error in his physics understanding. but he is right about practice making muscle memory available in a panic...
Went ahead and looked at some youtube videos. From what I saw, in a control environment, some bikes were somewhat on par with an AVERAGE older car (2 disk brakes for example) and most (especially without abs) required more distance than a car to stop. This significantly changes as modern cars have better braking tech. This is NOT considering any of the elements that may prevent you from braking at the same time as a car.

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Do you have any sources other than making opinionated statements aka "error in his physic of understanding"?
 

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Back in the 60's and 70's the motorcycle rags used to always do brake testing as drums were the norm and discs were just coming into regular use. They mostly stopped doing it because the brakes became good enough that they'll do only what the tires can get to the ground and the CG of the bike can prevent from flipping over. Plus the riders crashed a LOT during the max braking tests because when doing such things you ARE right on the edge of crashing.

On a test pad or racetrack it's possible to push braking right to the limit as you have multiple attempts to creep up on the edge and a clean surface to work with. Nothing like this exists on the street where the surface is constantly varying and when you need max braking...you NEED max braking so the element of surprise and sometimes panic can set in with adrenaline thrown into the mix.

Having been a competitive shooter we know for sure that adrenaline absolutely destroys your fine motor skills and coordination as well as messes with your eyesight....not the things you want happening when trying to manage braking or shooting to save your life. It's hard to remain calm when the crap hits the fan in front of you...so simplification has worked for many people.

Simplification you ask? Yes...we know that using both brakes is the quickest way to stop the bike, but the rear must be used exactly right or it becomes a liability. It must be applied first then released as the weight transfers to the front or it'll stop the wheel. The front must be applied quickly and hard enough to cause the weight transfer but not lock the wheel.....then once the weight has shifted forward the pressure is increased as you now have lots more traction to work with. Doing this under the gun is HARD...and too hard for most people to do reliably.

This is why some advocate abandoning the rear brake entirely at speed and just concentrating on using the front as effectively as possible. Leave the clutch engaged during the first few seconds of braking as the engine will automatically supply all the retardation the rear tire can use and work that front brake! If you lock the wheel...it'll slide and so long as you don't also lock the rear you have a couple seconds to react and get it spinning again but it's really hard when your brain is screaming STOP!! to release even one brake due to sliding so practice and maybe only using two fingers on the lever to reduce your power can help.

Oh....I've seen (and now own) cars that can pull the rear wheels off the ground during a stop and will outstop pretty much any bike, plus any joker behind the wheel can just smash the stop pedal and do it with no skill whatsoever....so following them too closely is very dangerous. Two seconds following distance minimum, three if possible is a good rule and even then if they jam on the brakes you're going to have a hell of a time not hitting them. Ride safely!
 

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Having been a competitive shooter we know for sure that adrenaline absolutely destroys your fine motor skills and coordination as well as messes with your eyesight....
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Competitive shooter here as well, what kind of shooting did you do?
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Competitive shooter here as well, what kind of shooting did you do?
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IPSC down in Florida back around '90-91. Never got very good at it...mid-pack was my normal outcome, but this was running a 10mm Delta (my daily carry) against all the race guns so I really didn't expect to ever win anything. Good practice and lots of fun, but running a relatively stock anything against the highly modified versions is going to end up badly for you unless you're something of a special talent...which sadly I was not. Competent..yes, talented...no.
 

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Yeah because having 2 wheels and 2 sets of brakes is better than 4 wheels and 4 sets of brakes... How long have you been riding buddy.
I've heard a lot of kids claiming they can out corner any race car.:lmao: Same kids I've seen get smoked in the local twisties by full dress HD's. Gotta love the "I can go fast straight, but park in the corners" goofballs.
 
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