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NOsquid said:
So the "you won't outride the cheaper option" philosophy doesn't apply to shocks Kris? :)
huh? i never said cheaper. i don't know where you got that from. i was referring to a properly setup emulator fork with that statement. just because its cheaper than a cartridge fork doesnt mean anthing....except it costs less.

i really don't know what answer you're looking for.
 

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Just that the cartridges are obviously better theoretically, like the Penske/Elka/Ohlins, but that doesn't mean many people ride well enough to notice much difference if they had emulators and a GSX-R shock instead. I'm not trying to be a prick, notice the smiley in the last post :)
 

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maybe they arent riding well because their suspension is holding them back :roll:
 

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I've got an Elka double on my 04 SV. I don't really have much to compare it to since I went from the stock shock to the Elka. Is the Elka better than the stock shock? YES! I've had the new shock at the track one time, but it rained most of the day, so didn't get to push it too hard. I'm headed back to the track in a couple of weeks, I should know more after that.

For Sale - one stock SV shock, perfect condition, just dirty.

Jody
 

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If you buy one of the "hybrid" shocks (ie. rebuilt GSX-R shocks) from that one place, do you still have to cut your battery box, etc, to get it to fit?

I'm not sure if I'll ever buy a new shock, but I know that when I do, it won't be one that requires me to hack up my bike to fit it. The shock is supposed to fit the bike, not the other way around. ;)
 

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Vermillion said:
If you buy one of the "hybrid" shocks (ie. rebuilt GSX-R shocks) from that one place, do you still have to cut your battery box, etc, to get it to fit?
yes.
 

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We have two great shocks available for your 2004 SV650. One is our two-way adjustable unit($735US), the other our three-way hi/lo speed compression adjustable unit($895US).
I'd be the first to admit i don't know so...here goes. Isn't that about what an Ohlins unit runs? Seems to me i've seen em for about that. Are the Elka units really that good?
 

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scoober78 said:
We have two great shocks available for your 2004 SV650. One is our two-way adjustable unit($735US), the other our three-way hi/lo speed compression adjustable unit($895US).
I'd be the first to admit i don't know so...here goes. Isn't that about what an Ohlins unit runs? Seems to me i've seen em for about that. Are the Elka units really that good?
Ohliuns units right out of the box for the SV, need to be lengthened and revalved and resprung. The Elka's and Penske's are great right out of the box for the SV. Those are the major factors. When I was looking, I was thinking of getting a Ohlins made for a 96~02 GSXR for $650, but then the $250 to add a new spring and revalve.. puts me in Elka/Penske territory. Plus the Ohlins is only double adjustable... where the Elka is triple adjustable.

For me.. it's value per dollar spent.
 

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Ohliuns units right out of the box for the SV, need to be lengthened and revalved and resprung. The Elka's and Penske's are great right out of the box for the SV. Those are the major factors. When I was looking, I was thinking of getting a Ohlins made for a 96~02 GSXR for $650, but then the $250 to add a new spring and revalve.. puts me in Elka/Penske territory. Plus the Ohlins is only double adjustable... where the Elka is triple adjustable.

For me.. it's value per dollar spent.
Maybe just a caveat here, but when people (like me) have posted about the length of the Ohlins being too short, we're really talking about for setting up the optimum geometry for racing. For a street/track day SV, the Ohlins is a great shock and the length is really not a problem. I had one on my bike for a year. I ended up adding some ride height for the track with shorter dogbones, which worked well to solve the length problem. I do agree that the stock valving on the Ohlins is not as good as a Penske, but again if you're not racing you'd probably still enjoy the Ohlins. Re-springing is not a brand-specific issue, any shock needs to be sprung correctly for your weight. And all three manufacturers (Ohlins, Penske & Elka) make both a double and triple-adjustable model. Triples are nice, but a couple hundred dollars more money. The Penske triple has always been the one that I've considered the top pick if you can afford it. I bought too much titanium to afford the triple, so I now have a Penske double. :lol:
 

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Well I finally got to try the Elka on the track. All I can really say is - I didn't notice the suspension at all, front or rear. I am assuming that if you don't notice it, it must be working correctly. The bike was "glued to the track" except for one little section I still have yet to "master" (I haven't ruled out pilot error). I am getting faster with every track day (although I'm still slow) but I did notice my tire wear (stock dunlops) was less with the Elka. Elka vs. stock - no comparison. Is it worth the money, I'd have to say yes because I don't think I'd be getting faster without it. Elka vs. other aftermarket shocks - I have no idea.

14 tooth counter sprocket, a big plus on the track.

Since I ground down the stock tires, I got a Pilot Race H2 on the rear and Power Race Soft up front. I can't wait to try those out.

Jody
 

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I *just* received my Elka Triple Adjustable last night.

I'll give a nice detailed report of it once I get the bike put back together.

Tonight.... I'm picking up my powder coated stuff.... So yeah... the bike will be back together soon.
 

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Jody said:
Well I finally got to try the Elka on the track. All I can really say is - I didn't notice the suspension at all, front or rear. I am assuming that if you don't notice it, it must be working correctly. The bike was "glued to the track" except for one little section I still have yet to "master" (I haven't ruled out pilot error). I am getting faster with every track day (although I'm still slow) but I did notice my tire wear (stock dunlops) was less with the Elka. Elka vs. stock - no comparison. Is it worth the money, I'd have to say yes because I don't think I'd be getting faster without it. Elka vs. other aftermarket shocks - I have no idea.

14 tooth counter sprocket, a big plus on the track.

Since I ground down the stock tires, I got a Pilot Race H2 on the rear and Power Race Soft up front. I can't wait to try those out.

Jody
You got it Jody! If the suspension is working correctly, you shouldn't be consciously dealing with it on the track, it should just be enabling you to put the bike where you want it and not giving you any undue drama over bumpy sections. It's nothing specific to the Elka, any good shock set up properly for you and your bike will produce those types of results. On the track, the difference between a really good shock and a great shock is really only noticeable at the ragged edge where most people will never ride. But the difference between a really good shock and a moderate to poor shock can be noticed by anyone. It's great that you're watching your tire wear also, that's a teltale sign of how well your suspension is working.
 

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Hi guys,

I just fitted a 2-way Elka to my '02, and find it to be the best mod I have done so far. BUT - I found that I needed to crank up the preload until about 45mm of thread was showing above the adjuster ring to obtain correct rear sag. Does this seem ok, or do I need a firmer spring???

cheers
 

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victim said:
Hi guys,

I just fitted a 2-way Elka to my '02, and find it to be the best mod I have done so far. BUT - I found that I needed to crank up the preload until about 45mm of thread was showing above the adjuster ring to obtain correct rear sag. Does this seem ok, or do I need a firmer spring???

cheers
threads dont matter.. what you need to figure out is:

1- how much do you weigh?

2- what spring rate is the spring that the shock came with?
 

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A lot of people seem to like about 10mm of free sag with 30mm of rider sag. If you have good rider sag but too much free sag, spring is hard. Too little free sag, spring is soft.
 
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