Do You Rev-Match? Mixed Reviews

I don't care what he says because he's referring to racing on a track, which is very different than street riding. Don't rev-match and see how upset the bike becomes. Sorry there Mr. Jitsu , I'll continue to rev-match. 😆

I've been training myself out of revmatching on track as I've found I'm a lot smoother feathering out the clutch instead.

That being said, I'm not watching the video because I can't stand that guy.

slow greg is a piece of shit for a variety of reasons i wont get into. but he is neither a good source for technique info, nor a good human

specifically with this, you dont upset anything if you get good. sucks to suck greg.
quicker downshifts on the brakes as well as not upsetting the chassis is a pretty good thing in my book...
there's also a reason autoblippers exist.... (yes for sv as well)

mad8vskillz said:

slow greg is a piece of shit for a variety of reasons i wont get into. but he is neither a good source for technique info, nor a good human

specifically with this, you dont upset anything if you get good. sucks to suck greg.

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Why does this guy suck?

mad8vskillz said:

slow greg is a piece of shit for a variety of reasons i wont get into. but he is neither a good source for technique info, nor a good human

specifically with this, you dont upset anything if you get good. sucks to suck greg.
quicker downshifts on the brakes as well as not upsetting the chassis is a pretty good thing in my book...
there's also a reason autoblippers exist.... (yes for sv as well)

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At first I was thinking...who is Greg? Because sometimes he refers to himself as "Fast Eddie" in the videos.. I understand now that Greg and Eddie are the same person.

MattTriesToDoThings said:

I've been training myself out of revmatching on track as I've found I'm a lot smoother feathering out the clutch instead.

That being said, I'm not watching the video because I can't stand that guy.

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I am going to pay attention and try out this feathering out the clutch thing.

Soulspinner said:

Why does this guy suck?

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Apparently Greg sucks..

Flash Yellow said:

At first I was thinking...who is Greg? Because sometimes he refers to himself as "Fast Eddie" in the videos.. I understand now that Greg and Eddie are the same person.

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he decided his own nickname will be fast eddie. but kinda like someone who decides their nickname will be "butch" but everyone else decides "nah, we're gonna call you buttercup now" plenty of groups have taken to calling him slow greg. (greg wydmar is his actual name)

Flash Yellow said:

Apparently Greg sucks..

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both on and off the bike

As with all things, slow is smooth, smooth is fast and there is a spectrum of shall we say, proficiency from either not revving at all or overrevving and dumping the clutch to exactly matching the engine with the next gear speed and causing 0 wear or disturbance whatsoever.

And you only get good by first being bad, so practice where the consequences of messing it up are low.

It's true that rev-matching isn't always necessary, but it's a skill that should be learned as it definitely helps with smooth, fast riding.

In a car it is the heel and toe..

My personal opinion?
I will ALWAYS rev match.
Since when I dropped a gear a bit too happily in a turn on a descent, and the rear tyre slipped for a couple of feet.

Flash Yellow said:

In a car it is the heel and toe..

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In a car (or bike with dry clutch) slipping the clutch excessively leads to premature wear. Most bikes don't have this issue.

Both car and bike will be upset if you are not smooth. The bike will punish you more because you also upset the balance.

Thus, we reach the idea of timing your downshifts so that any execution errors are low risk, such as when braking and still relatively upright (or before turning in if you're in a car).

If you accidentally add brake pressure when blipping the throttle you may momentarily lock the brakes-not as big a problem if you're upright and going straight still.

Same if you over or under rev the engine and you dump the clutch. You may lock the rear tire momentarily.

Same if you rev correctly and let the clutch out too slow.

slipper clutch

I pretty much always rev match. Little practice and you'll be smooth as silk with it. It doesn't take much throttle twisting to get it even with the next gear down, and once you get it coordinated, shouldn't affect your braking at all. IMO, there's a lot more chance of error with the slipping the clutch out method.

Oh boy. Please steer clear of that YouTube channel.

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MotoJitsu explains that rev-matching is not necessary and you do not need to blip the throttle to match the rpm of the engine when engine breaking. The pulsating of the brakes while blipping the throttle will upset the front end and makes this practice counter-intuitive.
I am going to have to play around with this to see what works and feels good.
What do you all think?

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I always rev match. I feel not rev matching rubs the friction disc and contributes to accelerated wear on the clutch. Also, the times I haven't rev matched while going into a corner makes my rear end skiddish. And lastly it sounds awesome pulling up to a stop.

How do you guys revmatch during hard braking? I find it really difficult to be smooth with the throttle while on the brake... On the street i mostly downshift one gear before a corner and brake into it, and sv has enough torque to pull even from slower corners and lower rpm.