[r3t1awr3yd]

http://www.kawiforums.com/showthread.php?t=121549

Looks like a really good (and super cheap) idea lol.

EDIT: A guy on expert village used a pointed tool and a hammer against the bike...

Actually expert village shows how to do this all the cheap way. Wow. Nice.

http://www.expertvillage.com/video/67423_sprocket-chain-bike-rivets.htm

 

[DarkMatter]

It'd definitely work, though any warranty would be void. I just bought a used motion bro breaker/rivet too on eGay.

 

[LSCYCLING]

cool

 

[Nexus242]

Well where there is a will there is a way. I'm still not sure why the chain rivet tool costs $100 for a simple C-clamp device but it does. Should be no more then $49 for the tool IMHO.

 

[507phantom]

http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/produ...d=418&productId=p28454&leafCatId=41805&mmyId=

i've never understood the huge price range among chain tools. you can get this press for $18, and a breaker for $17.

 

[Nexus242]

http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/produ...d=418&productId=p28454&leafCatId=41805&mmyId=

i've never understood the huge price range among chain tools. you can get this press for $18, and a breaker for $17.

Yeah that only presses the side plates on the chain. It does NOT spread the rivets in the master link of a chain. For that you can buy this for $99.99 or a DID one for $125.99

 

[tcl]

Yeah that only presses the side plates on the chain. It does NOT spread the rivets in the master link of a chain. For that you can buy this for $99.99 or a DID one for $125.99

People swear that motion pro tool is [email protected] but I bought what looks to be the same tool on ebay for about $45 and it has worked so far (1 chain) if it lasts another 4-5 chains, I'll be pretty happy. Look for "cam chain" tool on ebay.

Edit:

OIL the threads
DO NOT try to "break" the chain without first grinding off the rivet head.

 

[Nexus242]

People swear that motion pro tool is [email protected] but I bought what looks to be the same tool on ebay for about $45 and it has worked so far (1 chain) if it lasts another 4-5 chains, I'll be pretty happy. Look for "cam chain" tool on ebay.

Yeah I heard that too. But if it was such a piece of crap you'd think by now someone would come out with their better version of the tool and take all the sales from the crap Motion Pro one. I mean if it's that bad and everyone knows it someone should have by now come out with something better. That as of yet hasn't happened and clearly there will always be a need for rivet tools until we all go the way of HD/Buell and run on Goodyear belt drive setups.

Oh well...

 

[DarkMatter]

Yeah that only presses the side plates on the chain. It does NOT spread the rivets in the master link of a chain. For that you can buy this for $99.99 or a DID one for $125.99

I just purchased this exact tool used off ebay. It was cheap and was well worth it to me to do my chain/sprocket swap. I never understood the idea of balking at the price of tools. If you use it even once successfully they have saved you at least their cost in shop rates.

 

[wacky_woodchuck]

My Motion Pro chain tool has worked like a charm. I don't even know how many cains it has done, but it's been well over 15.

I think the biggest issue with the Motion Pro tool are the people using it and not the tool itself.

 

[acer66]

I think the biggest issue with the Motion Pro tool are the people using it and not the tool itself.

So it`s the tool using the tool?

 

[wacky_woodchuck]

So it`s the tool using the tool?

Ed Zachary...

 

[r3t1awr3yd]

So... from what I read, there's no downside to the tool created with the C-clamp.

No one has really presented a reason why I shouldn't just do that instead of buy a 50+ dollar tool.

Minus the warranty comment but I'm not even sure what warranty darkmatter is talking about. If it's a warranty on the chain, how would one prove that the chain was installed without the "correct" (read: relatively expensive) tool?

 

[wacky_woodchuck]

So... from what I read, there's no downside to the tool created with the C-clamp.

No one has really presented a reason why I shouldn't just do that instead of buy a 50+ dollar tool.

Minus the warranty comment but I'm not even sure what warranty darkmatter is talking about. If it's a warranty on the chain, how would one prove that the chain was installed without the "correct" (read: relatively expensive) tool?

It'll work, sure. I don't see why it wouldn't.... I'd just be careful will too much flairing of the rivet head...But than again, you can do that with the tool as well.

 

[DarkMatter]

So... from what I read, there's no downside to the tool created with the C-clamp.

No one has really presented a reason why I shouldn't just do that instead of buy a 50+ dollar tool.

Minus the warranty comment but I'm not even sure what warranty darkmatter is talking about. If it's a warranty on the chain, how would one prove that the chain was installed without the "correct" (read: relatively expensive) tool?

Because in order for warranty service and/or replacement of the chain it must be sent to the manufacturer for inspection.

 

[r3t1awr3yd]

Because in order for warranty service and/or replacement of the chain it must be sent to the manufacturer for inspection.

But won't I grind off the rivets when I take the chain apart to send it in for warranty?

 

[DarkMatter]

I'm pretty sure they are looking at the event of catastrophic failure. Of course you may have bigger things to worry about in that case than whether or not you are covered under warranty.

But in the event that you do send it in without failure you'd still only grind off the heads. The studs themselves would still show the stresses of their flaring. So they could tell whether or not the studs were flared in spec, no?

 

[DarkMatter]

In the interest of full disclosure...I'm neurotic about tools. I'm definitely a "right tool for the job" kind of guy.

 

[r3t1awr3yd]

In the interest of full disclosure...I'm neurotic about tools. I'm definitely a "right tool for the job" kind of guy.

But saying "right tool" is subjective depending on the situation. Many tools are ambiguous.

IE: cresent vs socket vs box vs torque vs etc. For those wrenches only torque has a purpose so specific that it can always be the "right tool". For the rest, it depends on how much room you have to work or other factors. They all turn a bolt though.

 

[jeff721]

The fact that the tool you're describing was created with this job in mind makes it any bit a good (read: right tool for the job) as the rest of these. Specific tool for specific purpose.

Good find.