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Carb cleaning question

4.5K views 11 replies 8 participants last post by  dpelt73  
#1 ·
So I've never torn carbs apart, would you recommend me getting a rebuild kit even though the carbs were taken care of like 3 years ago or nah?

Also when I go in and tear it apart will I be losing the synchronization of them or messing with the f/a mixture?


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#3 ·
If you are going to clean the carbs, you should remove the A/F screws to shoot the cleaner down into the passageway. Good time to inspect the tiny O-ring at the base of the screw and the tip of the screw. There is a tiny O-ring, washer and spring on the screw so be careful when removing. You need to count how many turns out the screws are set by carefully turning in until the screw Lightly bottoms out. You can reset when installing to the original setting. You don't have to separate the carbs to clean if not immersing in cleaning solution. Everything that can be taken off should for a proper cleaning including the coasting valve on the rear carb.
 
#5 ·
There is a great article on cleaning CV carbs,
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Cleaning_the_carbs_2
thanks to the guys with EX250s (I used to have one).

Having said that, if there are no symptoms of poor carburetion, I wouldn't take them apart until there is a problem.
 
#8 ·
If you don't separate the carbs from the rack (which you generally don't need to do) then you won't have to re-sync.
As mentioned though, it's not a bad idea to do it anyway, it may be off now.
 
#10 ·
as someone mentioned earlier, if you have no fueling related issues, don't need to do anything to the carbs.

If you do disassemble the carbs for cleaning, you generally want to take off ALL rubber parts, carb cleaner will penetrate rubber, and make it swell and distort.

Main thing are the slide diaphragms and float needles. you may get away with leaving little o-rings in if just spraying through the jets, but generally if doing a full clean you need to remove everything off the carb, leaving the bank together, and submerge them in carb cleaner inside an agitator if possible.

the carb body, all the jets, emulsion tube, and float bowl especially if it has an accelerator pump, all get put in the carb tank loosely.

get your idle mixture screw settings before taking them out. if you forget, 2 ½ turns out is a good start before idle dropping the carbs.

if all the rubber looks fine, you should be ok. anything cracked or hard (typically the float bowl gasket) should be replaced. I always flip the mixture screw o-ring because they generally become convex on the carb side.

If you had fuel coming out of the overflow, make sure the nipple on top of the float needle is still springy, make sure the cone of it is perfect and has no wear marks. and you can take metal polish on a q-tip and polish the float needle seat in the carb.

At the shop we always replace the pilot screws if any of the gas has had a chance to gum up. It's much cheaper to replace them than to tear the carbs apart again.

After carb cleaning we wash the whole thing off with water, and then use compressed air to spray through each and every opening in both directions to get rid of any left over carb cleaner.

when reassembling make sure the float height is correct and adjust if you can.

If there were running issues we generally go ahead and replace the spark plugs as well. pilot screws and spark plugs on every carb clean we do.

There's 5 mechanics at the shop and we each do 2-3 carb cleans a week.
 
#11 ·
Quick terminology question. Are you saying you replace the idle mixture screws, or the pilot jets?

Where can I buy replacement pilot jets? Should I bump up to 17.5? My new-to-me 2001 seems a little lean at idle, but it might be just dirty.
 
#12 ·
yep replace the pilot jets. again if you are 110% their clean they might be ok. but with how small the jet is, any little bit of gunk in there will be noticeable at idle and low throttle openings.

If you are stock stay with stock pilot jets. any small mixture issues can be fixed with the mixture screw where you would do an idle drop procedure.