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Hey guys wanted to get a new set of tires and needed some advice. First off, I do a lot of highway riding, commuting to work so that?s like over an hour a day at speeds usually at 80-120mph. On weekends I try to hit the twisty?s around here. I do probably 70% of my miles on the highway. This is my first bike so I am fairly new but I have ridden about 2500miles so far.

I've narrowed my choices down to a few tires; mainly the Avon AV46 ST, Metzeler Z6 and Michelin Pilot. I am also unsure if I should move up in size or not. All my friends that I ride with say I should move up to a 170...

Could someone explain the pros and cons of these tires as well as the perks of moving up or why I should stick with the 160.

Thanks for all your help in advance. ;D
 

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170 series is designed for 5" rim, SV has 4½" rim, there is no advantage to a 170. it's just a bling "I have a wider tire than you" factor, don't believe the hype, wider is not better
 

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No advantage, but is there any disadvantages? They only cost like $4 more and since I personally do think they look better with a wider wheel; i want to know if it would be at all bad if i did this.
 

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No advantage, but is there any disadvantages? They only cost like $4 more and since I personally do think they look better with a wider wheel; i want to know if it would be at all bad if i did this.
Do you know anything about "Tire Profile"?? You should do a couple of searches for information on that, because if you put a tire on a smaller rim it will change the profile of the tire, which has effects on all sorts of things like tire wear, handelling, performance... stuff you shouldn't just dismiss because you wanna look cool... but if you don't care about the way your bike handles then hey why the hell not... (but it'd make me wonder why you got a bike in the first place)... there's lots of information on this topic, and I'm all for looking cool, but I'd sooner buy a F3 rim and maintain the handelling on my bike AND look cool than put an oversized tire on my bike... I hope this helps... :)
 

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That did help, thats all i needed to hear. I dont want to trade any performace for looks. I do not know anything about tire profile, but i hear it used alot. I guess i should try and find some info on it. Thanks for the info.
 

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That did help, thats all i needed to hear. I dont want to trade any performace for looks. I do not know anything about tire profile, but i hear it used alot. I guess i should try and find some info on it. Thanks for the info.
No worries, from my understanding and thinking on the matter (don't take what I say as gospel, I strongly recommend further reading elsewhere) but in simple terms the rim is only so wide, so if you attach a tire that's wider then it will pull the sides of the tire closer and cause the arc of the tire to be more pronounced, potentially (depending on the construction of the tire) causing the bike to lean further/faster (this may be what you want) than it was designed to (by the people who know stuff about tires and design them)... and I'm not big on using stuff in any way other than it's designed (I work in an engineering environment and know what can happen if people mis-use the stuff we make... refer military equipment), especially when it's the only thing holding my sorry ass on the road I'm travelling down at 100 mph++.. ;D ;D ;D
 

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That did help, thats all i needed to hear. I dont want to trade any performace for looks. I do not know anything about tire profile, but i hear it used alot. I guess i should try and find some info on it. Thanks for the info.

Your best advice it to listen to people who own, ride and modifiy THEIR SVs. WE know the SV BETTER then those who ride Gixxers, Hondas and Yamahas. Once you accept that you'll be better off and safer on your SV.
 

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I think with any of the tires you mention, Azaro ST, Z6, Pilot Road, you can't go wrong, personally I'm a fan of the Azaro ST, I don't know if they are any "better" but they have been the most consistent tire throughout the whole life if the tire. they don't seem to lose as much performance as the tire wears. tire wear has also been even no notciable flat spot in rear and no scalloping in front, I normally replace in pairs, and have got 10,000-13,000 per set, my last set, I had a unrepairable flat @ 9k so I only replaced the rear, my front has 16k on it so fat and it looks like it "might" go to 20k Rainy season is coming up so I might not :-\

I don't ride on highway much, but when I do, its a lot continuous, like 1300 miles one way to deals gap, I would say that I am hard on a tires not because I'm speedy gonzales, cause I weight 300+ geared up, + I must carry another 50 all the time, so it's like I'm riding 2 up all the time when not off on a vacation putting 4000 miles on in a weeks time, I am using it for work, going from office to jobsite, or other destinations, I put anywhere from 50 -300 miles on from day to day, not in a particular rush to get anywhere usually and i usually go on a sunday ride anywhere from 250-600 miles could be a sport ride with the guys, could be a slow speed ride with my Gf following on her Vulcan500 or could be 2 up
 
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Avons are a great choice.

Do not change tire sizes.

For those days with a lot of hwy riding, increase tire pressure to max (see owners manual.)
Reduce pressure on twisty rides.
 

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I was in the same shoes as you. My idea was just to put the same tire the bike had on it when it was brand new. Why change a good thing? ???
 

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I was in the same shoes as you. My idea was just to put the same tire the bike had on it when it was brand new. Why change a good thing? ???
...because Suzuki put cheap/shitty tires on the bike to keep the price down, you'll honestly be supprised at how much better your bike will feel if you put some nicer tires on it... besides you can taper the bike more towards the type of riding you do (twisties vs. highway) and you'll get better performance (grip in the turns vs. lots of millage) from the specialised tires...

I've just put the Pilots on my bike and they're primo in the corners and feel good alround... will report later on wear in and millage...
 

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Your best advice it to listen to people who own, ride and modifiy THEIR SVs.   WE know the SV BETTER then those who ride Gixxers, Hondas and Yamahas.   Once you accept that you'll be better off and safer on your SV.


This is true, if only some of the people that are very knowledgeable didn't have the snotty, stuck up and "I'm better than you cuz I am more experianced' attidude. Sometimes its hard to take advise from people like that.
However, if you can learn to look past that, they do have very good advise.


Not implying it to anyone in particular, just had a some cases like that here.
 

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Nothing wrong with the 170 tire on the stock rim. Picking tires depends on how you ride. If your new chances are that you are not pushing the bike anyway, so you wont really notice the difference between 160/170 in rear.

Yeah it will change profile but hell the profile changes as the tire wears down. Its not dangerous to put a 170 on the stock rim. I think it looks a little funny but if you just want the fat tire look its not going to damage your bike.

Far as tires go, I would rec the Metz Z6 for rear. I have to have something a little softer up front because I do push the bike... running Power 120/65 in front, Z6 180/55 in rear (GSXR wheel). Works very well for street.

Ok having said all that, If you are pushing the bike some and dont have much strip left on the tires... keep the 160.

Hope that helps :)
 

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i brought my bike in for a new rear, shop told me to stay with the stock tires Metz's and to stay the same size or i'm an idiot. I took their advise.
 

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i brought my bike in for a new rear, shop told me to stay with the stock tires Metz's and to stay the same size or i'm an idiot.  I took their advise.
same size is good advice, if they mean MeZ4 by "stock" that's bad advice, the MeZ4 is an obsolete tire that has been replaced with the Z6
 
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