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So yesterday I was on a big loop though SE Ohio, travelling S on RT377.
Doing about 50, approaching a downhill left hander.
Deer runs out of trees to my left heading straight at me, just as I threw the bike over to negotiate the left hander.
I swerved to avoid a direct hit and hit the deer hard right in it's head with a glancing blow. I stood the SV stright up (now heading straight towards the outside edge of the road) and braked for all I had. Knew it wasn't enough.
Hit the grass on a steep enbankment doing maybe 25, lost the front end and lowsided, sliding down the grass slope. The hard case on the left side caught something and flipped the bike, throwing me into a somersault.
OK...knew my left ankle was ****led immediately. Managed to spin the bike around (it came to rest wheels up the steep slope) and used the slope to help get the bike up. Several folks stopped, one who had a tool needed to straighten the bent shift rod to allow me to get it back into 1st and get it out of the ravine.
The damage to the Sv is remarkably minimal.
Not wanting to leave my bike hours from home and the logistics of correcting that, I choose to ride home, 3 hours away. (WOW did that hurt) barely able to shift gears.
Doctor said cleanly broken fibula (was swollen so bad they were gona cut off my Sidi Way touring boot. They gave me a shot of morphine and as it kicked in I was able to get the boot off with only minor girlie screams.)
They're saying 6 weeks min, and I need to see a specialist next week as they couldn't do a final cast because of the swelling.



So...all that bullshyte aside, the basic question is this:

Would a race-oriented boot have PERHAPS kept this from happening? Here is a diagram that shows exactly where the fibula break is


Don't some of the race boots have mechanisms that help keep the ankle from rolling sieways? (which is obviously what happened as the bike lowsided)

If we don't learn from the things we encounter, what good was the experience?
 

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so the break was caused by the ankle rolling and not by an impact?

to be honest i would hope a race boot would have protected you better, but i only know so much.... curious to see what others say too
 

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First of all, glad you're relatively ok. Could have been much worse.

Second, yes most race style boots do have structural support to prevent or reduce the rolling ankle. Many also will limit how far forward of backward your foot can flex. Sidi, a*, tcx etc all have systems in the boots to help minimize wrong movement of your ankle as well as helping to prevent crushing injuries.

Good luck and heal quick!
 

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so the break was caused by the ankle rolling and not by an impact?

to be honest i would hope a race boot would have protected you better, but i only know so much.... curious to see what others say too
It really happened so fast as the front end went away I don't recall. I do remember thinking two strange thoughts during and immediately after the crash:

1) I can save this
2) As I finished somersaulting, coming to a rest basically sitting up, I though "hey...Peter Gabriel stopping playing"
 

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gahh that sucks man, glad you're ok though. thats the same kind of break i had(mine was non-bike related). my recovery time was 2 months, and i had surgery as well. think with the glass half full: at least it was the fibula and not the tibula. they told me tibulas can take more time to heal since it's the main weight bearing bone. hope the healing goes well!!!

as for the boot. yeah, imo. i have some tcx s-zeros and i can barely get my ankle to roll from side to side.
 

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Don't some of the race boots have mechanisms that help keep the ankle from rolling sieways? (which is obviously what happened as the bike lowsided)
As fishhead said, yeah there are many race boots that have structural support to prevent sideways ankle motion, such as an exoskeleton-type structure with a hinge that only bends forwards and back. I wear them for this exact reason, but they are not very comfortable for walking in.

However, you don't even know what happened to your ankle, so it's hard to say if it would have completely prevented the break.

Heal up! Glad it wasn't worse.
 

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The s-races maaaaybe could have prevented that... no one can say for sure. They are mighty stiff.



Sorry to hear about your accident. Were you listening to P. Gabriel at the time? I'm confused.

As usual.
 

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As fishhead said, yeah there are many race boots that have structural support to prevent sideways ankle motion, such as an exoskeleton-type structure with a hinge that only bends forwards and back. I wear them for this exact reason, but they are not very comfortable for walking in.
That's why I loved the Sidi Ways....could walk all day in 'em.
If there's even a small chance that a race boot would have helped, I am now shopping for more protective boots.

However, you don't even know what happened to your ankle, so it's hard to say if it would have completely prevented the break.

Heal up! Glad it wasn't worse.
I really thought I could save it, so I think I kept the foot on (or tried to) the left peg...stupid in hindsight...should have bailed.

Vicodens are nice in sufficient amounts.:dizzy:
 

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The s-races maaaaybe could have prevented that... no one can say for sure. They are mighty stiff.



Sorry to hear about your accident. Were you listening to P. Gabriel at the time? I'm confused.

As usual.
Actually, it was early Genesis that was playing, Gabriel singing. I am usually listening to music while riding.
 

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That's why I loved the Sidi Ways....could walk all day in 'em.
try a* supertech r. most comfortable boot ive ever worn, and they have top shelf protection.

i know exactly what you mean by "it happened so fast", i thought the same when i went down. heal fast and be careful! :)
 

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try a* supertech r. most comfortable boot ive ever worn, and they have top shelf protection.
Alpinestar's Supertech R are probably the best race boots I've ever worn. Crash tested mine multiple times with no injuries and they're SUPER comfy.

The only problem I have with em is if I try walking around in em all day. My heels are sore for a few days after a weekend of racing followed by a day or two of instructing. I bet gel inserts would help tremendously though. Gonna try that in a few weeks and see if it helps.
 

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Glad you managed to get away without serious injury to you or the bike. That is very lucky.

Try the Gaerne G-RW if you are looking into new boots. They are fairly comfortable, and you can definitely walk in them. Definitely a more race-oriented boot with better protection, but they won't kill you if you have to walk around for a few minutes.

When I was shopping for boots I almost bought the A* Smx-5's because they were so comfortable and are known to have decent protection. In the end I decided on the G-RWs because they have better protection, and it was specifically the outer anti-roll/hyperextension/hyperflexion system they have that sold me. They are also very good value for the price (pm RidersDiscount if you want to get a good deal on a pair) at sub-$250.

The only issues I have with them are the insoles and the fact they are not waterproof. The insoles are so thin that they serve no real purpose other than for Gaerne to say they exist. I'm sure this is to improve feel while riding, but I specifically remember trying other boots on that had better (more comfortable) insoles. I would suggest trying them on before you buy (my local MC store had them) as I found them to run a bit small.


If you're at all interested in them and have any questions, please feel free to PM me. Otherwise, here's to a speedy recovery!
 

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Sidi Way Boots don't seem to have a lot of ankle support. I think if you were wearing the Sidi Vertigos or Cobras you would have faired much better with just a sore ankle.

I crashed in my Vertigos in a ditch rolling my ankle quite badly, but I had no injury which I believe is due to the boot's awesome anti-roll structure.

You could look into Cortech Latigo RRs as a cheap alternative.
 

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try a* supertech r. most comfortable boot ive ever worn, and they have top shelf protection.

i know exactly what you mean by "it happened so fast", i thought the same when i went down. heal fast and be careful! :)
+1 PM RidersDiscount and they'll give.you a great deal on them. I waffled about the price at first but honestly they are the only piece of gear I'm 100% happy with. Well worth the money, and I'm pretty sure they already saved my ankle in an small accident.

I can wear them all day comefortably. They aren't heavy, don't squeak, and aren't overly "racey " in styling. Plus the way they are designed with the internal boot w/ roll protection and external armor means they fit better than any other I tried.
 
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