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A Hayabusa rider explains proper cornering technique

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I have this friend, Steve, who's in his late 30's and rides a Hayabusa. I think it's making just over 200HP on motor only, FYI.

Anyways, I was telling him tonight about my exploits in North Carolina at the SV Rally this year and happened to mention that I finally learned how to REALLY hang off the bike. I sat on his lowered 'Busa and demonstrated for him what it looked like and he laughed. I then allowed him to enlighten me.

His main problem is that I moved my butt off the the seat, insisting that I only should be moving my upper body forward and into the turn. He knew well enough to know that I shouldn't be supporting my weight by the clip-ons; instead, one should be supporting one's weight with one's legs. I explained that the G-forces of going through the turn do help to some degree to keep one on the bike through the turn. His bike was just sitting on the kickstand and not moving, obviously, so it's hard to prove what I'm talking about.

I then asked why I see so many better riders getting their butts off the seat. He retorted straight-faced serious with "well, you see those guys like Hayden and Rossi riding on those little 290 pound bikes so they gotta really put a lot into those bikes to get them to turn." Steve, I roll my eyes at you ::)

He said he plans to take his lowered, extended-swingarmed, 200HP 'Busa to Cresson in the next couple of months to see how well he can do on a race track.

He'll learn his lesson.


Note: I don't pretend to know everything, but I'm not about to agree with someone who rides around in jean shorts, a T-shirt, and no eye-protection regarding "real" riding. :mad:

Related side-note: he's expecting to get in his first set of leathers in the mail in the next week.
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ShaggyZ said:
I've seen the 'Busas handle well, but not the lowered, stretched type and not with a guy who "doesn't think much of turns because they're just not that fun."
Those Biker Boyz geeks aren't motorcyclists anyway...

.02

Disclaimer: I'll set aside bonafide drag racers (not street racers) who set their bikes up specifically for The 1320...to each his own.
extensive said:
everybody always said i was an idiot.
extensive said:
are you kidding me sarge? busas handle like crap and anybody who rides one or buys one is an idiot and can only go in a straight line... ::)
I aint calling anyone an idiot forthe bike they buy....to each is own...but the point I am making is that any given rider, at any given riding level, will, IMHO, be a better rider on a smaller bike, than a Busa. (( The point of Shagz's post was about this Busa dude giving him advice on riding the Dragon on his SV))

Sure, people will post that they have seen guys ride Busa's well, or they had one and rode it well.....but, I think it would be hard to argue that each of those guys would ride a smaller bike better...at least at a place like the Dragon.

Nudist said:
[dougz]Well, sounds like you have a sugar daddy.... keep on those knee pads [/dougz]

;D
Oh, not fair. Since Stranger has limited his posting here, and others have calmed down busting me, when have you seen a recent jab like that from me?? Haven't.
Nudist said:
... the downside, I will die if I buy one.
at least you know that much, ive come to that conclusion also as thats what is keeping me off those bikes (besides a test ride or two here and there).
DougZ said:
Oh, not fair. Since Stranger has limited his posting here, and others have calmed down busting me, when have you seen a recent jab like that from me?? Haven't.
I know, Doug has been a good boy.
evilbologna said:
at least you know that much, ive come to that conclusion also as thats what is keeping me off those bikes (besides a test ride or two here and there).
After getting more miles on my bike after the Rally (since I went down there with pretty much a brand new bike, and 10 miles on the suspension) and fine tuning the suspension.... even that was beginning to scare me a little. It was so planted in turns that I couldn't get it going fast enough to make me scared.... thats an issue right there. I hopped on my buddies R1 and hit some roads.... doing the same turns triple digits... Exhilarating, and painfully easy.
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DougZ said:
Sure, people will post that they have seen guys ride Busa's well, or they had one and rode it well.....but, I think it would be hard to argue that each of those guys would ride a smaller bike better...at least at a place like the Dragon.
I got no truck with that.
Sarge said:
I got no truck with that.
" no truck"? Define this term for me please.
DougZ said:
" no truck"? Define this term for me please.
No problem/issues, I believe.
OK, kewl.
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DougZ said:
" no truck"? Define this term for me please.
Intransitive verb meaning I won't argue, that we're on the same sheet of music.

LOL @ Nudie for being quick on the trigger.
Sarge said:
LOL @ Nudie for being quick on the trigger.
Yep... its how you get the good deals in the For Sale forum!!! ;D
Is you buddy with the busa taking it to a road corse? :eek:

He will have fun.
Doozer said:
Is you buddy with the busa taking it to a road corse? :eek:

He will have fun.
OMG he posts.
Nudist said:
After getting more miles on my bike after the Rally (since I went down there with pretty much a brand new bike, and 10 miles on the suspension) and fine tuning the suspension.... even that was beginning to scare me a little.  It was so planted in turns that I couldn't get it going fast enough to make me scared.... thats an issue right there.   I hopped on my buddies R1 and hit some roads.... doing the same turns triple digits... Exhilarating, and painfully easy.
HA HA HA Yes, I post again! And I just might post again.

Granted I am not as fast as you guys.  But I am getting faster every year.  With a better suspension it is easier to take the curves I ride everyday faster.  But that is why I upgraded I don't want to be scared, but I see why you don't like that.  It gets you to feeling all safe and you could start to become lazy.  Next thing you know there is a guradrail in you grill.
Lemme know when he goes to Cresson.. I wanna make sure I'm there to see that.
Doozer said:
HA HA HA  Yes, I post again!  And I just might post again.

Granted I am not as fast as you guys.  But I am getting faster every year.  With a better suspension it is easier to take the curves I ride everyday faster.  But that is why I upgraded I don't want to be scared, but I see why you don't like that.  It gets you to feeling all safe and you could start to become lazy.  Next thing you know there is a guradrail in you grill.
Thats just it though.... where do you draw the line? Inherent risk continues to raise with speed.
Ruefus said:
[snip] corners is where Life begins. Straight lines are simply waiting.
Best thing I've read in a while. Well put.
wonderjosh said:
Lemme know when he goes to Cresson.. I wanna make sure I'm there to see that.
Surely. I think I'm gonna try to go at the same time. I should see him tonight again so I'll see if he's got any idea when he'll go
I forgot to add that I knew this guy was full of poopy when stated this early on in our conversation: "Well, you know, I ain't afraid to lean it over. I've dragged peg on this before."

::) Uh, yeah, Steve... the pegs are 5" from the ground on your bike. I'd be surprised if he wasn't draggin' peg on the way to the grocery store.
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