I bought an sv650 with the description mint, nothing wrong, practically new... I got it and it had a sticker over the engine cover where when i peel it off it says Hyosung.. the engine clearly doesn't fit right there are engine mounts missing and lines coming off of the head that are plugged (under exhaust outlet), assuming they are oil feeds? He says he installed the new motor aprox 800 miles ago, i just assumed it was the right one... It seems to ride up down the driveway just fine. What am I getting into here? Is it even worth $2k It is nice otherwise but is this a deal breaker or can i rig mounts and be on my merry way? Any experience with the hyosung engine?
01 SV650 with hyosung engine?
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You are 100% correct. Gold star for you.
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Sorry, Travis, but caveat emptor does not apply to these facts. The difference here is the OP was mislead. The seller told him it was a Suzuki SV with a "new motor." That implies a SUZUKI SV MOTOR! Beyond that, the seller put a sticker over the Hyosung logo to hide the motor's origin. That's fraud.
Several years ago, GM got into trouble when their Cadillac plant fell behind in engine production They started fitting Chevy engines, without telling their customers. They got sued and they lost. It didn't even matter that there were some people who argued that the Chevy engine was the "better" engine. What mattered was that the buyers did not get what they paid for.
Looks like a trip to small claims court is in order for the OP.
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I would question the safety of the wrong engine cobbled into the Sv frame
and if your state requires annual saftey inspection, I would be leary of passing it, if I were the inspector
missing motor mounts is BAD, the SV engine is a stressed member, contributing to the structural strength of the frame iirc
wouldn't be much different than riding a bike with a cracked frame, imho
the actual running of the engine would be the least of my concerns
and if your state requires annual saftey inspection, I would be leary of passing it, if I were the inspector
missing motor mounts is BAD, the SV engine is a stressed member, contributing to the structural strength of the frame iirc
wouldn't be much different than riding a bike with a cracked frame, imho
the actual running of the engine would be the least of my concerns
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And once again, the sticker was only one sign that something wasn't right, which is exactly how a lawyer will play it.
If you bought a car that looked like a Corvette, had Corvette headlights, the basic Corvette shape, and was painted in Corvette red, but had a "Ferrari" sticker over the Chevrolet emblem, would you just keep claiming "but look! A sticker... was... covering... !
anic:"When you buy something, you check EVERYTHING. Being duped on one aspect does not make you immune to being duped.
Hello, the guy completely lied to me. "No damage at all" he says. We talk for a while on the phone and after all the lies I send partial payment through paypal and part in cash when he drops it off. I point out leaking forks, cracked plastic, worn cable housing, chips in paint... etc. Not all too bad but still far from perfect. Well I managed to cancel the pending payment from my credit card so I think I might be able to get outa this mess.. wish I knew I could do that in the first place and I woulda sent him on his way. How do you post pics?
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Ok, now I'm confused as to what's going on.
1st post you said you bought the bike, and didn't notice any of the abnormalities until you got home.
2nd post, you said you talked about what was wrong with the seller, then paid him.
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1st post you said you bought the bike, and didn't notice any of the abnormalities until you got home.
2nd post, you said you talked about what was wrong with the seller, then paid him.
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I didn't read that anywhere.....
It seems as if he put down a down payment on his credit card.... the guy showed up with the bike, noticed a few things wrong. Then after paying the rest of what he owed for it, the guy left, started looking over the bike thoroughly and started finding a lot of things wrong.... that is what I got from his 2 posts.
Alright, Let me explain the whole story for those interested. First here's the ebay item #, it didnt sell I was searching "completed listings"(that is what you will have to click to see it) I contacted him originally through ebay then phone. I've been riding my 82 harley sportster for 6 years now and decided I wanted a change, I know nothing about suzuki. I agree to 1700 paypal and 800 cash when he drops it off from 3+ hours away, 700 cash after I point out the forks. The cosmetic aspects I took with a grain of salt. I notice a couple misaligned mounts he explains it was done professionally in a bike shop and I will have no problems with it. I've spoken with shops and now know that none of them would have swapped this motor.. I call and tell him I canceled the paypal portion of the payment until I get a shop to look at the bike in light of the discovery of the hyosung brand I revealed and that this was very abnormal. .. But I don't think there's a shop that will touch this bike. This all happened today. **** shame because if it had a legitimate motor I would've been pleased with the deal... Why the heck he didn't just put a suzuki motor in it baffles me he couldn't have saved that much money.
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This. I know the Hyosung engines are supposedly down a bit on power compared to the SV mills, but that and reliability of the engine would be the least of my worries as well. I can't tell about the mounts by the fleabay pics, but it's obvious to the trained eye that it isn't a Suzuki engine. Hopefully you got out of the deal without too many headaches.
I have pics but am new to the site and don't know how to post them, I can email them to someone willing to post them.
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Got a photobucket account? If so upload them there then copy past the image code:
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ii would def get rid of the bike asap i dont know how it is but in tn we have a lemon law if you buy a bike, car, ect and are not happy within three days the seller must give you a full return no questions asked you may want to check into your state laws but def get rid of it asap imo
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+1 its really a shame that this kind of thing happens.
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To those who care and didn't look it up, here is the description from the Ebay ad. All the pictures were like Myspace photos for bikes, so I didn't include them.
Highlighted the normal red flags too... To the OP: I'm sorry your first foray into sport bikes has gone so horribly, horribly wrong. BTW, state and federal lemon laws are almost always exclusive to only repairs made under the manufacturer's warranty. IE, if some numbskull wanted to do an engine swap and sell something, you can't cite him under the lemon law. You can, however, ruin him through PayPal, ebay, and small claims court as you see fit.
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