Can you back out at this point? If you could I would pass. You can find another 01for 2K

 

I don't have any answers to your questions, but I'd love to see as many pictures as you're willing to share.

 

I have pics but am new to the site and don't know how to post them, I can email them to someone willing to post them.

 

Holy F Bomb. I hope you can get your money back. I sales rep for Hyosung tried to tell me Suzuki and Hyosung share the design of some parts, but I am not sure I believe that.

 

Caveat emptor
"Let the buyer beware".

Sorry, you got bamboozled. That is most certainly not the proper SV motor in there. Someone has stuffed an incorrect Hyosung engine in. I reread your comments, and it seems the guy told you he put a new motor in? I don't think you'll have any recourse here.

 

Sorry, Travis, but caveat emptor does not apply to these facts. The difference here is the OP was mislead. The seller told him it was a Suzuki SV with a "new motor." That implies a SUZUKI SV MOTOR! Beyond that, the seller put a sticker over the Hyosung logo to hide the motor's origin. That's fraud.

Several years ago, GM got into trouble when their Cadillac plant fell behind in engine production They started fitting Chevy engines, without telling their customers. They got sued and they lost. It didn't even matter that there were some people who argued that the Chevy engine was the "better" engine. What mattered was that the buyers did not get what they paid for.

Looks like a trip to small claims court is in order for the OP.

 

Sorry, Travis, but caveat emptor does not apply to these facts. The difference here is the OP was mislead. The seller told him it was a Suzuki SV with a "new motor." That implies a SUZUKI SV MOTOR! Beyond that, the seller put a sticker over the Hyosung logo to hide the motor's origin. That's fraud.

Several years ago, GM got into trouble when their Cadillac plant fell behind in engine production They started fitting Chevy engines, without telling their customers. They got sued and they lost. It didn't even matter that there were some people who argued that the Chevy engine was the "better" engine. What mattered was that the buyers did not get what they paid for.

Looks like a trip to small claims court is in order for the OP.

And once again, the sticker was only one sign that something wasn't right, which is exactly how a lawyer will play it.

If you bought a car that looked like a Corvette, had Corvette headlights, the basic Corvette shape, and was painted in Corvette red, but had a "Ferrari" sticker over the Chevrolet emblem, would you just keep claiming "but look! A sticker... was... covering... ! anic:"

When you buy something, you check EVERYTHING. Being duped on one aspect does not make you immune to being duped.

 

I bought an sv650.....Is it even worth $2k It is nice otherwise but is this a deal breaker

so did you or did you not buy it already? if you can get your money back do so asap and run like the wind!!!

Any experience with the hyosung engine?

I highly doubt it, that sounds like a **** pile of effort to force something to fit. You need to post pictures for our amusement tho!!!

 

:roflmao:

 

Hyosung is def NOT the correct engine. they make copies of japanees bikes but are def not of the same quality.

 

The second part of that sentence is incorrect. They don't, and never have, made a copy of a Jap bike. Hyosung is a contract manufacturer, a lot like Foxconn for anyone into computers. They have been under contract to make MANY different parts, including complete engines, for big name manufacturers for years. Chances are, if you've owned more than one bike, one of those bikes had multiple Hyosung parts on it.

The reason people think they make Jap copies is simply because the Japanese have been using Japanese branded Korean parts for decades. So, in turn, the new bikes Hyosung are manufacturing under their own name are simply proprietary or contractually similar designs to something another company bought from Hyosung. The big rumor is that, in a couple of years, the Big 4 will become the Big 5 once Hyosung's QA and QC standards are up to par for an American market.

To the OP, if you bought the bike, you just got hosed as far as a 'mint' SV. If you haven't bought the bike, run quick and fast. It isn't to say that the particular engine is going to be bad, its more likely that the previous owner fudged up something real bad. Not to mention the lack of service you will get at any and every shop you visit.

 

In short, ya got hosed, 'cause you didn't pay attention when you bought the bike.

 

What was he supposed to have done, started taking stickers off a bike he didn't own?

There should be a case here as the bike was described as mint, and that OEM parts were used in repair, which in fact they weren't. But I'm not a lawyer so who knows.

I wouldn't want a bike that a guy in his shed changed out the engine on.

 

The sticker was not the only tell-tale sign.

If a bike is advertised as mint, I'm going to try my dam-dest to prove them otherwise.

 

wow, i'd love to see some pictures of how that engine is rigged inside the frame. Stupid question probably but since i don't know anything about hyosung, is it a V-twin?

 

As per the "copying" issue, they do kind of keep everyone's designs, and yes it's a V-Twin

VS

I'm not sure as to why they went with Hyosung though, I thought their engine had lower stats.

EDIT: Thank you groundhogday, apparently Total Motorcycle doesn't like direct linking, probably why Google Images was being funny with it.

 

I agree that you should have inspected the motor a little closer before purchase. If not it's yours now. I will also agree with Datech, Hyosung may just become a major player in the same way that Mitsubishi or Hyundai broke into the US sales market. Mitsubishi made vehicles for Dodge long before they sold their own. Mitsubishi gave to same chance to Hyundai. If you have any doubts as to quality of Hyosung engines do some searching. Performance parts are available & they have been raced in the US. For giggles do a search on Fischer MVX650, do you still think they build a pile o'crap?

 

It might be a quality engine, but if the mounts aren't all lining up and in use I wouldn't want the thing cobbled into my frame. I think nothing short of legal action will get your $$$$ back though. You really should've taken someone who knows bikes to look at it. Not blasting you for being ignorant because I can understand how someone new to motorcycles would have no clue what to look for. Sometimes not knowing any better gets you hosed.

 

darkfall, nothing but red x's.

 

I've heard from multiple sources (including a Hyosung dealer) that Hyosung manufactures engines and other parts for Suzuki. If you already own it, and can't get your money back, oh well.

http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/hyosung-gt650-vs-suzuki-sv650-14284.htm

 

Perhaps, but even if this is true, it's still not the original motor, nor is it the engine designed for that SV.

 

I still think you have a case, though you'd probably need a lawyer.

This isn't about the quality of a Hyosung engine, but the fact that it was retrofitted by someone that hasn't shown any qualification to do the work. And I'd be interested to see whether the DMV or equivalent was told about the engine swap.

And if you want to register, I'm sure you'd have to document the change to have everything legal.

 

I would question the safety of the wrong engine cobbled into the Sv frame

and if your state requires annual saftey inspection, I would be leary of passing it, if I were the inspector

missing motor mounts is BAD, the SV engine is a stressed member, contributing to the structural strength of the frame iirc

wouldn't be much different than riding a bike with a cracked frame, imho

the actual running of the engine would be the least of my concerns

 

This. I know the Hyosung engines are supposedly down a bit on power compared to the SV mills, but that and reliability of the engine would be the least of my worries as well. I can't tell about the mounts by the fleabay pics, but it's obvious to the trained eye that it isn't a Suzuki engine. Hopefully you got out of the deal without too many headaches.

 

Hello, the guy completely lied to me. "No damage at all" he says. We talk for a while on the phone and after all the lies I send partial payment through paypal and part in cash when he drops it off. I point out leaking forks, cracked plastic, worn cable housing, chips in paint... etc. Not all too bad but still far from perfect. Well I managed to cancel the pending payment from my credit card so I think I might be able to get outa this mess.. wish I knew I could do that in the first place and I woulda sent him on his way. How do you post pics?

 

Ok, now I'm confused as to what's going on.

1st post you said you bought the bike, and didn't notice any of the abnormalities until you got home.

2nd post, you said you talked about what was wrong with the seller, then paid him.

:dontknow:

 

Ok, now I'm confused as to what's going on.

1st post you said you bought the bike, and didn't notice any of the abnormalities until you got home.

2nd post, you said you talked about what was wrong with the seller, then paid him.

:dontknow:

I didn't read that anywhere.....

It seems as if he put down a down payment on his credit card.... the guy showed up with the bike, noticed a few things wrong. Then after paying the rest of what he owed for it, the guy left, started looking over the bike thoroughly and started finding a lot of things wrong.... that is what I got from his 2 posts.

 

Regardless of all the mess, you have one truly unique bike. Engine swaps are very rare, nevermind engine swaps from a different brand. Unfortunately the gains in performance are nil.

 

Alright, Let me explain the whole story for those interested. First here's the ebay item #, it didnt sell I was searching "completed listings"(that is what you will have to click to see it) I contacted him originally through ebay then phone. I've been riding my 82 harley sportster for 6 years now and decided I wanted a change, I know nothing about suzuki. I agree to 1700 paypal and 800 cash when he drops it off from 3+ hours away, 700 cash after I point out the forks. The cosmetic aspects I took with a grain of salt. I notice a couple misaligned mounts he explains it was done professionally in a bike shop and I will have no problems with it. I've spoken with shops and now know that none of them would have swapped this motor.. I call and tell him I canceled the paypal portion of the payment until I get a shop to look at the bike in light of the discovery of the hyosung brand I revealed and that this was very abnormal. .. But I don't think there's a shop that will touch this bike. This all happened today. **** shame because if it had a legitimate motor I would've been pleased with the deal... Why the heck he didn't just put a suzuki motor in it baffles me he couldn't have saved that much money.

 

Alright, Let me explain...[stuff]... Why the heck he didn't just put a suzuki motor in it baffles me he couldn't have saved that much money.

First off, I hope this experience doesn't turn you off the idea of finding & purchasing a nice used SV. They really are nifty motorcycles (when they haven't been butchered & had weird motors transplanted into them). It baffles me as well... he must have got his hands on the Hyosung motor dirt cheap, then rigged it in for almost nothing.

Second, as I orginally stated, ultimately it still comes down to "Buyer beware". Yes, it seems this person tried to defraud you. Yes, it appears he was acting in a deceptive manner. Yes, he's a bad man & will probably go to Hell for it. But it STILL falls on the buyer to take proper steps to protect themselves from bad people like this. I'm a firm believer in never buying a 'pig in a poke'... I would never purchase a motorcycle sight unseen, nor make a promise to buy it without inspecting it firsthand. If this means taking it to an expert, trained mechanic, or shop, so be it.

Finally, I hope you successfully back out of this deal with your wallet fully intact. If so, consider yourself lucky, then get back to finding a good used SV. We have a great community here, so if you need assistance looking at a bike, etc. post up & let us know. Folks around here are more than willing to step up & help a fellow member out.

Good luck!

 

ebay item # 220606031664

 

Should have bought my 2002 motor. Problem solved. lol

 

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