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Old 08-27-2009, 02:42 PM   #31
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Re: A really cool direction! (450cc single Cafe')

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that's not a motocross chassis

Frame: Modified Honda

Its likely a modified CRF frame, no?
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:44 PM   #32
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Re: A really cool direction! (450cc single Cafe')

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Frame: Modified Honda

Its likely a modified CRF frame, no?
steel tube? they haven't made steel tubed MX chassis since 1997

edit: it looks like a vintage honda CB frame
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Old 08-27-2009, 03:30 PM   #33
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Re: A really cool direction! (450cc single Cafe')

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Frame: Modified Honda

Its likely a modified CRF frame, no?
Definitely not the CRF frame or any variation of it:



This is my 250, but the 450 has a very similar frame.
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Old 08-27-2009, 04:43 PM   #34
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Re: A really cool direction! (450cc single Cafe')

Maintenance nightmare. I love the idea of a cool thumper streetbike but with a CR450 motor it's not a bike for someone who doesn't like doing lots of engine maintenance.
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Old 08-27-2009, 04:56 PM   #35
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Re: A really cool direction! (450cc single Cafe')

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steel tube? they haven't made steel tubed MX chassis since 1997

edit: it looks like a vintage honda CB frame
Duhhh ... where is my head at.


Excuse me ... I'm old.

Edit // Did Early CRFs have a steel tube frame?
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Old 08-27-2009, 05:11 PM   #36
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Re: A really cool direction! (450cc single Cafe')

Kurt Blankemeyer 08.27.09 at 3:26 pm
We use a series of large inline transmission coolers underneath this CB450R to keep it’s temperature in check. Hence, no traditional radiators shown. Lots of fittings. But, we will probably be hiding a radiator in addition with these coolers when we sell kits to cool it down more. As anyone around these CRF450R/X knows, they get hot like turning on a light switch. The 450s make the 400s seem anemic.


As far as durability, I count myself as being very hard on equipment (various people have mentioned this all my life) and we have not blown this engine (yet). The goal is to eventual get it to fail, then fix the problem(s).
Granted, if you plan on driving cross country on this CB450R, then this bike is not for you! Initially, we are wanting current CRF450R/X owners. Is it “Goldwing reliable”, NO but who would expect it to be when the stock CRF450R acts like a grenade with the pin pulled. You can’t make that kind of power without losing some reliability.
As for Price (not yet fully determined, but here goes):


Level 3: Titled Primered Frame only (future versions to be mono-shock, so no welding on your CRF450 swingarm): approx. $3,500
Assumes, buyer supplies correct year CRF450R/X, front end from appropriate year Hondas, seat, and misc other items. We can suggest what works and what doesn’t.


Level 2: Titled Chassis with cooling system etc., minus CRF450R/X parts & customer supplied wheels/rims: Price TBD
Includes everything but CRF450R/X parts


Level 1: Complete titled “Barrel O’ Monkeys – Drive off Lot on Rear Tire” CB450R: starting at ~$11,000
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Old 08-27-2009, 06:31 PM   #37
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Re: A really cool direction! (450cc single Cafe')

Is that water cooled? Just sayin. Where's the rad?

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Old 08-27-2009, 07:07 PM   #38
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Re: A really cool direction! (450cc single Cafe')

Looks like it's under the frame.
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:14 PM   #39
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Re: A really cool direction! (450cc single Cafe')

Can anyone id that front end?
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:18 PM   #40
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Re: A really cool direction! (450cc single Cafe')

Have you thumper fans checked out the CCM stuff?

This link is for a retro model....they have other ones too.

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