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BKK Jack 12-06-2010 04:21 PM

The Cafe/2-stroke/Euro... blah, blah, blah Thread
 
Please, feel free...

...but at least have the common decency to properly reference your post with a link, or a picture.

BKK Jack 12-06-2010 04:26 PM

Re: The Cafe/2-stroke/Euro... blah, blah, blah Thread
 
I'll start.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syscrush (Post 2175126)
I must admit that I rather like this Exile Black Bull:


That's about as clean a look as I've seen on a motorcycle. Does the brake pedal operate both front & rear brakes via a proportioning valve or something?

I really fail to see what makes this bike worth $50,000 (other than there are obviously people willing to pay that much for it. All I see is a rigid frame, an off-the-shelf S&S engine, and some solid wheels. It does look clean, but $50k, seriously?

Looked at another way: You can buy the entire kit for under $30,000, so it costs them $20,000 just to throw it together and spray some bedliner on it? Really?

Endless Mike 12-06-2010 04:40 PM

Re: The Cafe/2-stroke/Euro... blah, blah, blah Thread
 
It has a bulletproof appearance. That's easily worth $10k!

Syscrush 12-06-2010 04:41 PM

Re: The Cafe/2-stroke/Euro... blah, blah, blah Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BKK Jack (Post 2175333)
other than there are obviously people willing to pay that much for it.

That's the only thing that makes anything worth anything.

BKK Jack 12-06-2010 06:46 PM

Re: The Cafe/2-stroke/Euro... blah, blah, blah Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Syscrush (Post 2175342)
That's the only thing that makes anything worth anything.

Thank you, Captain Obvious. ;D. I'd much rather have your 690 than one of those, and an extra $20k+ to do something crazy, like, oh, I dunno, pay off my car, my debt, then do trackdays until I could ride it like it deserved to be ridden.

Syscrush 12-06-2010 07:54 PM

Re: The Cafe/2-stroke/Euro... blah, blah, blah Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BKK Jack (Post 2175427)
Thank you, Captain Obvious. ;D. I'd much rather have your 690 than one of those, and an extra $20k+ to do something crazy, like, oh, I dunno, pay off my car, my debt, then do trackdays until I could ride it like it deserved to be ridden.

Well, really it's the only answer.

What makes that Black Bull worth $50k is stuff that can't really be broken down into #'s. Enough people want it enough that he can charge that much and still sell all he can build.

NICE WORK IF YOU CAN GET IT!

But a lot of what you're paying for is the brand, and that's kind of indefinable. But Russel built that brand with a lot of determination and inspiration, and I don't begrudge him his success.

OCC on the other hand... :facepalm:

Eckstream1 12-06-2010 08:10 PM

Re: The Cafe/2-stroke/Euro... blah, blah, blah Thread
 
I cant get over some of the Cafe style Ducati's... $1 million for two MH900E's?
Thats just insane... I would buy a Veyron before I even thought about a Ducati for that price...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Two-I...item35ae54b0be

Eckstream1 12-06-2010 08:16 PM

Re: The Cafe/2-stroke/Euro... blah, blah, blah Thread
 
Now this is a bike I could spend $50k on... I love the look!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2008-...item3a6127e5c3

BKK Jack 12-06-2010 08:18 PM

Re: The Cafe/2-stroke/Euro... blah, blah, blah Thread
 
I confess to not knowing anything about Mr. Russel and his brand, but I will take your word for it. I don't begrudge anyone success who has come by through intelligence, dedication, and hard work, no matter how little intrinsic value I might assign to their product.

To be fair, I have to admit it's one of the more attractive bikes I have seen in the "chopper" genre, probably because to me it looks more like a rational, real riding bike than any of the abortions from the Pauls, et al.

BKK Jack 12-06-2010 08:22 PM

Re: The Cafe/2-stroke/Euro... blah, blah, blah Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eckstream1 (Post 2175491)
Now this is a bike I could spend $50k on... I love the look!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2008-...item3a6127e5c3

I actually think I'd spent the mythical 50 grand on the bike Syscrush and I were talking about before the Wraith. It just looks to me like they are trying way to hard to make them fugly. Call me an old codger, but I have certain design paradigms that can be bent, but shouldn't be broken.


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