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Old 04-08-2008, 11:13 PM   #1
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Single Sided Swing Arm Conversion Thread.

Since everyone always has questions about the SSSA conversion. I will just type as much as I know about it and when i find new things about it I will just add it to the first post. Can I get this to be a sticky?

If people could get me some info and post it it would help.

Things I dont know:

Pivot width of the 2nd gen SV650 swing arm and SV1000 swing arm.

Distance in between swingarm pivot point on the frame.

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Swing arm Specs:

90-90 VFR750
shock linkage mount is two lobes
pivot width: 242

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94-97 VFR750
shock linkage mount is one lobe
pivot width: 227

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hawk gt650
no linkage, shock bolts to top of swingarm
pivot width: 235

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RC30
shock linkage mount is two lobes
pivot width: 235

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MV Agusta f4
*unkown linkage*
pivot width: 255

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Triumph
*unknown linkge*
pivote width: 285

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I would stay away from the new VFR800 and all ducati swingarms becuse they do not attach to frame. The trimph sssa's are way to wide for a SV650 frame.

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Exhaust:

If you want to get a SSSA, you need either to;

A: Get a custom header
B: have the swingarm machined through for more room so the stock header will fit through.

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Application
90-93 VFR swing on a 1st gen SV650.

The SSSA will NOT fit into the 1st gen frame with out modification of the frame.

You need to take the "boss" on each side all the way down to the edge of the frame. After you do that, you can use the stock VFR spacers, but the right one must be ground down about 1 to 2 mm for a nice fit in the frame. You can use either the stock SV pivot bolt or the VFR bolt.

Your front and rear sprockets will be off about alil less then 1/4 of an inch. Get a spacer to put on the inside of your front sprocket to move it out.

The 90-93 VFR has an offset shock just like the SV650. So for link, use the Stock VFR linkage with SV650 dog bones. You will need 3/4 to 1" shorter dogbones then stock. (I just drilled new holes).

You would want to take the shock mount off of the stock SV swingarm and weld it to the SV frame. You do this becuase you are reversing the linkage.

Then get custom exhaust made and thats about it. It's alot of work and $$$ to just gain some looks and alot of weight, but i like it.

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Application
94-97 VFR swing on a 1st gen SV650.

I will write this up soon.

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Application
SSSA on 2nd Gen SV650

If anyone would like to donate me their 2nd gen for a month or so and give me what ever SSSA they want on it. I will put it on for no charge just because i want the knowledge. You just have to buy all the parts.

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Application
SSSA on a SV1000.

Complications: Exhaust and Shock are opposite that of the 650. Shock is on the right, exhaust on the left.

There for on the FRAME, the shock mount must be relocated to the center and exhaust will have to be routed around the shock then down to the right of the swingarm...

I would assume that the 94-97 VFR sssa or the Triumph may be the best options for this application.

If anyone would like to donate me their SV1000 for a month or so and give me what ever SSSA they want on it. I will put it on for no charge just because i want the knowledge. You just have to buy all the parts.

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I will finish this tomorrow...
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:37 PM   #2
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Re: Single Sided Swing Arm Conversion Thread.

Man... I'm not sure if I want to donate my bike to you and get it cut up by a hack saw! :-P
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:41 PM   #3
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Man... I'm not sure if I want to donate my bike to you and get it cut up by a hack saw! :-P
O i forgot to mention. I will actually do your bike better then mine. no hacksaw on anyones bike. Only mine.
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:54 PM   #4
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O i forgot to mention. I will actually do your bike better then mine. no hacksaw on anyones bike. Only mine.
Sawzall for youz! j/k Remember a thread on someone measuring the Gen 2 swingarm length, someone had 2 swingarms pictured? Tried to look at my bike, maybe someone is doing a shock swap can get the numbers you're looking for.
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Re: Single Sided Swing Arm Conversion Thread.

yay shweist. SSSA extrodinair
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Old 04-09-2008, 05:59 AM   #6
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Re: Single Sided Swing Arm Conversion Thread.

This is your most useful thread to date

Pivot width on the 2nd gen 1000 and 650 should be the same but the 1000 has the shock offset to the other side (I think) because of routing the dual exhaust. They should be close to the 1st gen width but someone needs to measure to be sure.
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Old 04-09-2008, 07:28 AM   #7
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Re: Single Sided Swing Arm Conversion Thread.

I just bought a spare Sv1K swing arm....I'll get a measurement on its width sometime this week.

Are you taking your measurements with the bearing caps on or off? Meaning, if off, just end of metal to end of metal.
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Old 04-09-2008, 08:28 AM   #8
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I just bought a spare Sv1K swing arm....I'll get a measurement on its width sometime this week.

Are you taking your measurements with the bearing caps on or off? Meaning, if off, just end of metal to end of metal.
metal to metal.

I stopped in at the suzuki dealer to get look at the 1000 swingarm.

Shock is on the right, exhaust on the left.

you what i got out of that was, If you wanna do SSSA on 1000 you need to;

1: relocate shock mount on the frame to the center.
2: one off exhaust is needed.
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Re: Single Sided Swing Arm Conversion Thread.

^^^^ yeah, very few realize that the 650 and 1K have their exhaust and shock locations opposite of each other.

I have no wish to do a SSSA on my SV1k, but will on a bike project down the road.
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Old 04-09-2008, 03:19 PM   #10
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^^^^ yeah, very few realize that the 650 and 1K have their exhaust and shock locations opposite of each other.

I have no wish to do a SSSA on my SV1k, but will on a bike project down the road.
the sv1000 swingarm looks really good, no need for the SSSA. although it would be some different.

I would really like to see someone put one on a 2nd gen. Dont make me buy another SV just so someone does it.
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