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Old 06-08-2017, 06:41 AM   #1
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McGuinness and Martin both crash

Why haven't we seen anything here about this? Or have I missed it?





So Guy Martin crashes because his transmission refused to shift, and McGuinness had the throttle stick. Not good looking for Honda...eh?
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Old 06-09-2017, 02:17 AM   #2
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Re: McGuinness and Martin both crash



Throttle stick can be any number of things, that transmission on the other hand... Had only heard about Martin, this is the first i've heard of McGuinness
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Old 06-09-2017, 05:27 AM   #3
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Re: McGuinness and Martin both crash

I'm not a fan of 'fly by wire' throttles...much prefer cables to and from so you have absolute control over them. This is the second top level racer to be badly hurt when they closed the throttle...but it didn't respond. The latest TC systems rely on being able to control the throttles...and perhaps this is why they went to it, but TC at IOM isn't nearly as important as on a circuit being that Self-Preservation on a true road course won't let them ride at the same 10/10'ths level.

Honda says they don't know why it stuck...but have gone back to the SP1 version for the rest of the racing from what was reported.

The 'Quick-Shifters' work great too...when they work. But if they misbehave, you can lunch the tranny or get a box-O-neutrals...which makes them undesireable in my book. Especially at IOM...confidence in your machine would be absolutely needed and ANY fettering during testing or the race would destroy it and compromise the effort.

I feel bad for Honda...they are very passionate about their bikes and normally do a fine job with them, but perhaps we're now seeing why they ran the SP1 for so many years? McGuinness won many times on it, and was still competitive...but the motoring press was yammering about how old it was and did this incite Honda to build the new version?
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Old 06-12-2017, 08:00 PM   #4
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Re: McGuinness and Martin both crash

On a more sober note. Three riders lost their lives this year at the TT. Last year's TT cost four lives.
I know we tell ourselves that everyone understands the danger of racing at (literally) break-neck speeds over public roads, but I find the amazing spectacle less enjoyable when I'm reminded it's becoming a bloodsport comparable to gladiators in the arena.
RIP to all those brave men.
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