high speed wreck

[sephrin]

i had it in my back pack. i wasnt high when the wreck happened. and im sure there was a combination of rider error and mechanical issues that didnt exactly help. thats a pretty crappy comment to suggest that i was operating the bike under the influence. if that had been true i would have a dui or a dwi i was completely sober when the accident happened.

im not tryint o start a fight here but have you ever had certain vital parts or your bike fail on you in mid ride? im not talking about blinkers either. im not a professional track rider so i dont have decades of track experiance. im sure i made some rider errors as it was pretty terrifying to have certain system failures in mid ride. and to reply to your comment about the hydro clutch not being an issue. there is a reason why they put cable conversion kits on track bikes and its not cause its lighter. its cause they cant afford to have the hydraulic clutch go out on the track and take out all the following riders. hydraulic clutch systems have been known to leak for no reason since their creation in both cars and bikes. not to mention that you have probably never ridden on that particular stretch of road to feel all the bumps and imperfections and random gashes from construction work accidents. i dont care what speed you are going, your tires hit gravel in mid turn and you eat the pavement.
you guys can keep your hydraulic clutches if you dont think they are problematic but do yourself a favor and search the forums for clutch issues and then tell me there are no problems with the hydraulic setup

[lt1]

One of the effects of mj is an impairment of cognitive functions that lasts longer than the high. So of the two mentioned possible causes (1) failure of the clutch to disengage, and (2) mj, I still maintain (2) is the more likely scenario. Not being able to downshift simple cannot cause a crash under the conditions you describe.

What you describe sounds a lot like poor judgement - (mj impairment?) - riding 100mph on bumpy, imperfect roads with gouges from road construction and accidents, out-running your sightlines, cornering aggresively on familar roads that you know are (again), bumpy, imperfect and gouged, with ongoing road construction.

The reason you couldn't have gotten a dwi/dui was that the police didn't bother to test you. You might well have tested clean, but from all of your description of the riding up to the crash, the crash itself, and the aftermath, your judgement wasn't spot-on. I don't know how much of that had to do with mj or how much with other factors. Obviously, the post-crash behavior could be mostly attributable to shock.

As you say, I don't know the road where you crashed. But I have known a number of users, and I've done a bit of study on motorcycle safety and crashes. I'm glad you had your gear on and escaped w/o serious injury. I hope you give serious thought as to the contributing causes of the crash so that you can avoid the necessity of repeating the incident. As you say, no need for a fight between us, as the fight was already fought between you and physics.

[digitalbroccoli]

I'm still really confused as to how the clutch would have anything to do with this accident. It sounds like simple rider error, you went into the corner too hot, it happens. Glad you're up and around.

[max384]

A barrel roll in the air and then one roll and stopped from a 60mph crash Was that from the first or second Diehard movie? Or was that Biker Boyz?



Glad to hear you're okay and that you were wearing gear.

[sephrin]

lol if thats in a movie its not one i have seen. i dont even remember the roll part thats what the witness told the 911 dispatch. i remember standing up and cursing the bike out cause i just put like $1000 into it from various repairs and neglect from the previous owner. waited about 2 to 3 months to get all the parts and 2 days later the bike is wrecked. then after that i walked to a driveway nearby and laid down.

like i said im sure there was a fair amount of both mechanical error and rider error that played on each other. i was not under the influence of anything i had MJ in my bag because im a delivery driver for cancer patients that have a medical card. well i WAS anyways. kinda hard to deliver on foot. reguardless i was just saying that its pretty rude to jump to the conclusion that i was under the influence just cause i had some in my bag. thats like saying the budweiser guy is drunk if he wrecks his delivery truck cause he had beer with him. either way the bike is wrecked so it dont really matter and as for the fight between me and physics i think its a stalemate. it got the bike for sure but if physics was coming after me it missed.

[thbndit]

Glad you are okay bud

[sephrin]

thanx

[608svs-06]

Glad your ok, bikes can be replaced

And not to re-open the discussion about the MJ.. But you gotta understad how that sounded in your post: "she offered to let me hot box in the ambulance" and "I have an once in my pack." I honestly would have jumped to the same conclusion.. Only because not once in there did you mention it was for work until many posts later. Save yourself the hassle next time and put in "...ounce in my pack (because I deliver for cancer patients)"
Lol

[lt1]

LOL. I guess it really has been a long time since I hung out with the stoner crowd. Not the Stoner crowd, as I still follow Moto GP on occasion. Hot boxing, huh? That one slipped by me entirely from the OP, but I looked it up after 608's comment. Okaaay. I'm even more confident in my assessment of rider error and chemical damage, and probable impairment. It's a shame, really.

[OrangeBlood]